Re: created, issued, modified [Re: comments on Atom 0.2]

[Evan Martin <martine@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 08:10:24AM -0700, Jeremy Gray wrote:
> Actual, Pepys' Diary is STILL a remarkably different, but wholely
> applicable, scenario. Pepys wasn't sitting in front of a laptop creating
> Pie/Echo/Atom/Feedcast/whatever entries in a software application, unlike
> the Mountain Man. Unless you are suggesting that Mountain Man was just
> writing his text into notepad and then pasting the content into his CMS just
> before publishing the content once he returned from the mountains, in which
> case I wish you had said so. :)

That is exactly what I was suggesting.  The whole point of putting him
in the mountians was to put him in a situation where he didn't have
access to his CMS.  There are many other, more common, situations where
someone might not have access to their CMS, which I'll list if they're
not self-evident.

> > Let me try to explain my thinking by way of an example.
> 
> -snip-
> 
> Evan - I have followed both of your examples without problem since they were
> first presented. The problem still boils down to this:
> 1. You seem to want to use issued in a way much more suited to created

My examples didn't use the term "issued" anywhere.  I was careful to
avoid those terms because this whole discussion is about a general
misunderstanding of those terms.
My goal in presenting those examples was to let you (whose understanding
of DC I haven't yet achieved) tell me whether the times I presented
correspond to any of the defined DC (and Atom) times, and if so, which
corresponded to which.

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> > Both of those together lead me to believe that using these Dublin Core
> > terms will lead to confusion.  I'd rather have a spec that had hard and
> > simple rules defining these values.
> 
> We do. Its called Dublin Core. We may need additional terms, and I'll get to
> this in a moment, but the only problem I see with Dublin Core is that you
> are so unwilling to use it that you write horseshit FUD like the quoted
> pieces above.

I really don't need this sort of abuse.
It is neither helpful nor productive.

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