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Re: Rough consensus on PaceElementOrder?




Sounds like a plan. I'm not crazy about "feedinfo", but can't think of something to replace it.




On Jul 12, 2004, at 10:41 AM, Tim Bray wrote:


I think that we are approaching rough consensus on PaceElementOrder, like so:


1. I think we clearly have consensus that the feed-level elements should all appear before the <atom:entry> elements.

2. I think we have probably have good-enough rough consensus that it's worthwhile grouping all the non-entry stuff in an <atom:feedinfo> or some such, so that the content model for <atom:feed> is something like

atom:feedinfo, atom:entry*

The cost of doing this seems effectively zero and there are some detectable advantages.

3. There has been some discussion around the notion that there are some feed-level things that are really mostly about providing defaults for the <atom:entries>, with the consequent suggestion that maybe they deserve their own top-level element, with further digressions into doing defaulting by reference rather than by inheritance. I do not detect consensus in these discussions (in fact I'm not convinced that it's been demonstrated that there things that are have pure entry-default as opposed to feed-metadata semantics).

SO: I propose that rather than tear this one apart any further, we ask the editors to, in the -01 drafts, recast the data format with the <atom:feedinfo> element (anyone should feel free to suggest a better name than "feedinfo"), and that those who care about defaulting cook up a Pace or three outlining specifically what the options are. -Tim


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