RE: EDIINT and HIPAA

["Rik Drummond" <rvd2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

 i have david fischer, the drummond group guy running the as2 testing is
taking copious notes on the issues. he will be glad to give them to you soon
as you want them..... i think we are really close. one of the reasons we
changed the to / from headers was not that they were necessarily incorrect
in the current as2 spec, but because they, if used as written in the spec,
would almost always cause implementation confusion and prohibit
interoperability.  i really think we are very close with the current as2
spec. nothing like an implementation to clean things up in a spec. best
regards, rik

-----Original Message-----
From: dick@xxxxxxxx [mailto:dick@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 7:59 AM
To: Rik Drummond; pbyrne@xxxxxxx; Gunther Schadow;
ned.freed@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Kepa Zubeldia; CLEM; Gary Crough; Beth Morrow; David@Drummondgroup.
Com; GISB1@xxxxxxx; ietf-ediint@xxxxxxx; dick@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: EDIINT and HIPAA


Rik,

I agree, the original AS2 spec was based on AS1, but there were problems
discovered during AS2 interoperability testing (using RFC 822 (email) style
packaging)  related to "To" and "From" headers, which resulted in the
creation
of two new headers specific to AS2, "AS2-To" and "AS2-From".  We (as the
authors
of AS2) will have to provide details of  these new routing headers and
cannot
depend entirely on AS1, as we had originally.

AS1 and AS2 (using RFC 822 (email) packaging) will be VERY similar, but not
exactly alike. I believe AS2 will have to stand on its own through the IESG
review process and we'll have to provide "complete"  technical
specifications in
AS2 to satisfy IESG requirements.

Ned, am I correct in this postulation?

Regards,

Dick Brooks
http://www.8760.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: Rik Drummond <rvd2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pbyrne@xxxxxxx>; Gunther Schadow <gunther@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Dick Brooks <dick@xxxxxxxx>; Kepa Zubeldia <Kepa.Zubeldia@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
CLEM
<clem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Gary Crough <gcrough@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Beth
Morrow <Beth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; David@Drummondgroup. Com
<david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <GISB1@xxxxxxx>; <ietf-ediint@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 4:55 AM
Subject: RE: EDIINT and HIPAA


> bty, we are in the final edit phase of making as1 an rfc. after this goes
> through, as2 (which is based on as1) is next.... thanks for the note pete!
> best regards, rik
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pbyrne@xxxxxxx [mailto:pbyrne@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 1:36 PM
> To: Gunther Schadow
> Cc: dick@xxxxxxxx; Rik Drummond; Kepa Zubeldia; CLEM; Gary Crough; Beth
> Morrow; David@Drummondgroup. Com; GISB1@xxxxxxx; ietf-ediint@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: EDIINT and HIPAA
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> Greetings from Pennsylvania.  For what it is worth, the regulated electric
> utilities in PA exchange X12 EDI data with energy suppliers using the
"old"
> GISB
> method; i.e. X12 EDI transactions encrypted with PGP and transported via
> batch-mode HTTP POST method.  The transaction volume averages in excess of
> one
> million EDI transactions per month.
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> Many of the utilities have already declared their intention to migrate to
> AS2-compliant GISB as soon as the software is commercially available.
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> The GISB method, whether "old" or AS2-compliant, is content neutral.  It
> will
> transport data of any size, shape, color, or flavor, whether X12, HL7, or
> any
> other.  In addition, it supports unattended, batch processing (which is
how
> my
> company uses it).
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> Hope this helps.
>
> Pete Byrne
> GPU Energy EC/EDI
> and
> Chair, Utility Industry Group
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> Gunther Schadow <gunther@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on 11/02/2000 11:12:44 AM
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>  To:      dick@xxxxxxxx
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>  cc:      Rik Drummond <rvd2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Kepa Zubeldia
>           <Kepa.Zubeldia@xxxxxxxxxxx>, CLEM
>           <clem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Gary Crough
>           <gcrough@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Beth Morrow
>           <Beth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "David@Drummondgroup.
>           Com" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, GISB1@xxxxxxx,
>           ietf-ediint@xxxxxxx(bcc: Pete Byrne)
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> Dick,
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> I appreciate your warning. Please me (and others) understand ...
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> regards
> -Gunther
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