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Re: rough sketch of a potential solution




 Suppose Alice and Mallory are two
unrelated people.  Alice gets an email account from example.com,
and gets a certificate from some CA.  She doesn't trust example.com
nearly as much as she trusts the CA, but example.com is limited to
denial-of-service attacks; it can divert her incoming or outgoing mail,
but because it doesn't know her private key, it can't forge signed mail
from her, and it can't read encrypted mail to her, so she's willing to
use an email account from this not-really-trusted entity.

only example.com can really say who alice@xxxxxxxxxxx is; example.com is free to change this binding anyway. so any certificate from an external CA that makes assertions about who alice@xxxxxxxxxxx is is meaningless.


Maybe there's a way to fix this, but I think we're all leaning toward
the multiple-addresses-in-the-certificate approach anyway.

me too.


When you say "issued in the same domain", do you mean that the addresses
have the same domain-part (the part after the at-sign)? Or are you
referring to some PKI-related concept of "domain"?


If you mean that the addresses have the same domain-part, I think that
restriction would destroy our whole motivation for alternate addresses.
The point is to have one address that's memorable for users of one
script, and another address that's memorable for users of another
script.  The two addresses will obviously contain distinct IDNs.

we can do that if we have a way to declare that the two IDNs are equivalent. what we don't want to do is build a mechanism that can map an arbitrary email address onto another arbitrary email address. that's opens Pandora's box.


we want people to be able to transcribe the addresses that are
displayed to them, or use the addresses stored in their address books,
which in either case may be alternate addresses rather than fallback
addresses.

Agreed.


So we want to ensure that sending to an alternate address has exactly
the same result as sending to a fallback address.

But I still don't see a need to do more than one lookup in the address
mapping service. When I send mail, I can put whatever address I like in
the From field and the Reply-To field.

It's not the originator fields that are the problem so much as the recipient fields. A's MUA needs the address mapping service to obtain alternative addresses for B and C so that each address will be maximally transcribable by all recipients.