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Comments on draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-04

 

1. The title of the document is: “Data Structure for Security Suitabilities of Cryptographic

Algorithms”.

 

The document states that the data structure is independent of the intended use (page 8);

therefore, it cannot be said if an algorithm is *suitable* for any intended purpose. Note that

“Suitabilities” should always be used with the singular: Suitability.

 

Replace with: “Data Structure to Estimate the Validity Period of Cryptographic Algorithms”.

 

 

2. The acronym DSSC should be changed into: DSEC (Data Structure to Estimate

Cryptographic algorithms).

 

 

3. The start of the abstract is only related to digitally signed data. However, the fourth use

case is about re-encryption, but such a use case is not mentioned in the abstract. The abstract

should be extended to mention encryption.

 

 

4. This draft defines a data structure which estimates the validity period of cryptographic

algorithms independently of the intended use. The text states in the abstract: “This document

specifies a data structure that enables automated analysis of the security suitabilities of

cryptographic algorithms”.

 

This sentence should be corrected. The document states that the data structure is independent

of the intended use (page 8); therefore, it cannot be said if an algorithm is *suitable* for any

intended purpose. See the comment on the security considerations section for further

explanations.

 

Proposed replacement:

 

“This document specifies a data structure that enables an automated estimation of the validity

period of a single cryptographic algorithm at a time. The automated processing of a

cryptographic data structure that includes one or more cryptographic algorithms needs to be

tailored to a specific use case and is outside the scope of this document”.

 

 

5. On page 5, the term "security suitability policy" is being used. The data structure is a set of

rules which allows to estimate the validity period of various cryptographic algorithms. The

wording "security suitability policy" should not be used, because the word “suitable” implies

that the algorithm would be suitable in a specific context and there is no such context.

 

Replace the term "security suitability policy” by “cryptographic resistance policy”.

 

The word “suitable” should be replaced in many instances in this document.

 

 

6. In the requirements section (2.1), it is mentioned that the integrity and authenticity of a

published "data structure" must be assured. Since the previous requirement is source

authentication, this requirement should not be mandatory. In fact, the document considers the

signature of the data structure as an option, which is fine.

 

 

7. In the requirements section (2.1), a requirement is missing: the date of issue of the data

structure shall be indicated. In fact, the document considers the date of issue as mandatory,

which is fine.

 

 

8. In the assumptions section (2.2), it is mentioned that "an algorithm is valid if it is contained

in the current policy and the time of interest is within the validity period". This assumption is

incorrect. The data structure should be usable to tell "until when" a given algorithm was or

will be usable, instead of simply telling "valid".

 

When estimating the cryptographic resistance of an algorithm with this data structure, the

output should not simply be "valid" or "invalid", but "valid until XXXX".

 

 

9. Section 3.12 is about the validity element. The last sentence of the paragraph defines a

processing rule which is the following:

 

"If the end of the validity period is in the past, the algorithm is not suitable".

 

This sentence should be replaced with:

 

"If the end of the validity period is in the past, the algorithm was suitable until that date".

 

 

10. Section 5 is about "Processing".

 

The text states: “In the following, a process is described that can be used to determine if an

algorithm was valid at a particular point of time”.

 

“Valid” is not the right word. The algorithm was resistant against estimated attacks at a

particular point of time”.

 

Replace with: “In the following, a process is described that can be used to determine if one

algorithm was resistant against real or estimated attacks at a particular point of time”.

 

 

11. Section 5.3 states: "To determine if an algorithm is valid ...". This sentence should be

changed into: "To determine the validity period of an algorithm...". Similar changes need to

be made in the text that follows.

 

 

12. Section 5.5 mentions that if the algorithm is not valid, an error is returned. It would be

more adequate to return the Evaluation elements so that a decision can be made, which is

dependent both upon the context of use and the data structure where the algorithm is being

used.

 

Both sentences from this section should be replaced by.

" If the algorithm is in the table, the Evaluation elements are returned.

Otherwise an error "algorithm unknown" is returned".

 

 

13. Section 6. This section should be expanded to warn the user that the processing rules

described in section 5 are about *one* algorithm at a time *independently of the use case*.

Depending upon the use case, if an algorithm is no more resistant at the time of evaluation,

this may be no problem at all.

 

Let us take an example: an RSA signer's key of 900 bits is being used. If an evaluation is

made in year 2015, this key size will probably be broken. Is the algorithm unsuitable in 2015?

This fully depends upon the use case and upon the elements of the data structure that are

evaluated. Example: if the signature was time-stamped with an RSA signature key of 2048

bits, before an RSA key size of 900 bits was broken, then the data structure is fine. If it was

not, the *data structure* is no more resistant at the time of evaluation.

 

Another example is the use of a MD5 hash function. If this hash function is being used in a

data structure, but the data has been rehashed with SHA-256 before MD5 was "broken", then

the data structure is fine.

 

 

14. Section 8. The informative reference [ETSI-TS101903] is obsolete. The last version is:

ETSI TS 101 903 V1.3.2 (2006-03).

 

 

15. Section 8. The informative reference [ETSI-TS102176-1-2005] is obsolete. The last

version is: ETSI TS 102 176-1 V2.0.0 (2007-11).

 

 

16. Appendix A.1. It should be indicated that this appendix is informative.

 

 

17. Appendix A.1 is a specific use case. If a hash function in the inner timestamp is no more

resistant, does it means that the whole structure is invalid ? If yes, does ERS provides a way

to protect against this threat ? More explanations should be provided.

 

 

18. Appendix A.2. It should be indicated that this appendix is normative.

 

 

19. Appendix B. It should be indicated that this appendix is normative.

 

 

20. Appendix C. It should be indicated that this appendix is informative.

 

 

21. Appendix D. It should be indicated that this appendix is normative.

 

Denis
 
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This draft is a work item of the Long-Term Archive and Notary Services
Working Group of the IETF.


  Title : Data Structure for Security Suitabilities of
Cryptographic Algorithms (DSSC)
  Author(s) : T. Kunz, et al.
  Filename : draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-04.txt
  Pages : 41
  Date : 2008-10-08

In many application areas it must be possible to prove the existence and
integrity of digital signed data. This proof depends on the security
suitability of the cryptographic algorithms used to generate or verify
the digital signature. Because algorithms can become weak over the
years, it is necessary to periodically evaluate these security
suitabilities. When signing or verifying data, these evaluations must
be considered. This document specifies a data structure that enables
automated analysis of the security suitabilities of cryptographic
algorithms.Conventions used in this document

The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
"SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119].

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