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Re: About RFC 3280bis




Dave,

No problem. I will wait.

Denis

Denis,

Here is what Tim said when he first announced that 3280bis-00 was available:

> David has also created an html diff file that shows all changes from 3280 to 3280bis.
 >
> http://csrc.nist.gov/pki/documents/PKIX/rfc3280todraft3280bis-00_diff.html
 >
> He has not had time to pull together a "disposition of comments" email, since I have > him triple booked at the moment. (In particular, he is working on SCVP as well.) > He will try to get that to the list before the meeting, but the diff file makes it very
 > easy to identify the changes that have been made.

I will be creating the "disposition of comments" that you want to see, but I have other projects that are of higher priority that must be completed first. The disposition of comments will have to wait until I have time.

For those who want to know how 3280bis-00 differs from 3280, the diff file is the best place to look since it highlights every change, even ones that are too minor to mention in a "disposition of comments" document. If you don't want to look at the diff file and only want to read the "disposition of comments" document, that's fine. But, you will have to wait until I have time to write it.

Dave

Denis Pinkas wrote:

Tim,

I certainly agree that no one has the time to read all of 3280bis these days, and that it is important to provide the set of changes in a straightforward manner. However, it was very difficult to convey the complete context of the proposed changes without showing how they would impact the current text. Describing the changes out of context and rolling them in later would surely result in repetitive debates, and I personally don't see the value in arguing every issue twice. To ensure that the complete impact of all changes were accurately conveyed, we felt the need to create a 3280bis draft.

To facilitate an efficient review by WG members that are already familiar with 3280, the editor also has provided an html diff file that shows all changes from 3280 to 3280bis. As noted earlier on list, this file is available at

http://csrc.nist.gov/pki/documents/PKIX/rfc3280todraft3280bis-00_diff.html

The html diff file clearly identifies every change (deletions are in red and strikethrough, insertions are in green) so no one should have to read the entire document or spend cycles figuring out which sections were, or were not, modified.



This still does not solve the concern.

We need a short document that we can print to review in the train or in the plane. I cannot handle a 100 pages document.

Please save our trees (since trees are transformed into paper).

.. but more important, what we need is a summary of all the change requests and, even more important, how they have been addressed.

A change document will not mention the comments that have been discarded.

Denis