Russ,
They were calling an 'encrypt' function to encrypt XML data and they
gave it an RSA key (the cert actually) to do it. Of course it
internally made an AES key but they never saw it until the
interoperability issue made them look. From what they saw at the level
they were looking the interpretation was reasonable. When the
transport key is well hidden and simply part of the protocol then it
looks just like RSA is encrypting big slabs of data. If you know that
RSA is bound by the modulus size then you know what is really
happening but not all users of PKI know RSA so well. Why should they?
Couple this interpretation of key-usage with a dubious decision to
reject encryption requests with certs that dont have key-usage='data
encipherment' and you have an interoperability problem. I say
"dubious" because it is a public key so you cannot enforce usage
policy anyway. The CA could set both flags to fix it, which by the way
was the vendors preferred solution, but its not my CA or their CA and
the CA doesn't do that. Why should they?
This reference, in my opinion, allows the ambiguous interpretation:
> The keyEncipherment bit is asserted when the subject public key is
> used for key transport. For example, when an RSA key is to be
> used for key management, then this bit shall asserted.
>
> The dataEncipherment bit is asserted when the subject public key
> is used for enciphering user data, other than cryptographic keys.
In this case the public key is clearly "intended" to be used to
encrypt the XML data but it just doesn't do it directly because it
cant. The term "key management" also has associations with more basic
and explicit key management operations like installing trusted root
certs or secure installation of shared secret keys etc. In this case
it is much less obvious that key management is happening because the
key is bundled with the data. It looks just like the public key is
encrypting the data.
In my opinion there are 3 cases presented as 2 in the RFC.
1. RSA encrypts data - hardly ever used.
2. RSA implicitly encrypts keys so it can really encrypt bulk data -
common usage.
3. RSA explicitly encrypts keys for explicit key management functions
- common usage.
The current bits separate 1 from 2/3 yet people make the
interpretation that they split the more common 2 from 3 assuming 1 and
2 are the same thing. Knowledge of RSA is required to know that 1 and
2 are different.
Peter's comment "This bit MUST NOT be set when the intention is to
encipher intermediate cryptographic keys rather than raw user data" is
most relevant in my case. Does PKIX support this clarification?
In my opinion this problem will not entirely go away by clarifying the
standard because most people dont read it before they implement
something. The two bits are there and as long as they are both there
then the mistake will be made by busy developers. Unenforceable
key-usage policy, to "public" keys, will also continue to be
implemented. People will come looking for clarification once they have
an interoperability issue but by then it is often too late - the issue
usually gets decided by who has the biggest corporate balls. In this
case it wasn't too late so thanks for the assistance.
If I could recommend a change to the standard then I would suggest
dropping one of the encryption bits and just have a single key-usage =
"encryption". Give it the value the same as "key-encryption" since
this is the common usage.
Thanks,
Simon McMahon.
Simon McMahon
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>>> Russ Housley <housley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 05/12/05 01:06am >>>
Simon:
If they are encrypting the XML data directly with the RSA key (which is
very unlikely), then they are correct.
The traditional way to handle this is to generate a random
content-encryption key (CEK) and then encrypt the XML data with a
symmetric algorithm using the CEK. The CEK is encrypted with the RSA
key from the certificate. Thus, the RSA key is really being used to
encrypt only
symmetric keys.
Russ
At 08:33 PM 5/10/2005, Simon McMahon wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have had a recent interoperability issue with a application vendor
that >didn't like the key-usage attributes in a cert from a CA vendor's
>certificate. Signing certs work fine, it was an encryption cert that
failed.
>
>CA sets key-usage = "key encipherment".
>Application wants to encrypt some XML data so looks for key-usage =
"data
>encipherment". Reason - because XML is data, not a key.
>
>I believe the application vendor is wrong and I explained that the
RSA key >actually encrypts an AES key so it doesn't directly encrypt
the data but >they want an official "pkix" ruling based on the
standard so can someone >please refer me to a statement in the
standard that clears this up.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Simon McMahon.
>
>
>
>Simon McMahon
>
>Work: (07) 31311420
>Mobile: (043) 2294180
>
>
>
>Simon McMahon
>
>Work: (07) 31311420
>Mobile: (043) 2294180
>
>
>
>
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