RE: Last Call summary for draft-ietf-pkix-cert-utf8

["Jim Schaad" <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I concur with this text.

jim 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ietf-pkix@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-ietf-pkix@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Russ Housley
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:11 AM
> To: Ted Hardie
> Cc: iesg@xxxxxxxx; ietf-pkix@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Last Call summary for draft-ietf-pkix-cert-utf8
> 
> 
> Ted:
> 
> Thanks for the improved text.  Here it is all put together:
> 
>     When strings are mapped from internal representations to 
> visual representations,
>     sometimes two different strings will have the same or 
> similar visual representations.
>     This can happen for many different reasons, including use 
> of similar glyphs and
>     use of composed characters (such as e + ' equaling 
> U+00E9, the Korean
>     composed characters, and vowels above consonant clusters 
> in certain languages).
>     As a result of this situation, people doing visual 
> comparisons between two
>     different names may think they are the same when in fact 
> they are not.  Also,
>     people may mistake one string for another.  Issuers of 
> certificates and relying
>     parties both need to be aware of this situation.
> 
> This does not impose any untestable requirements.  Any 
> concerns with this text?
> 
> Russ
> 
> At 11:05 AM 4/13/2006, you wrote:
> >At 10:32 AM -0400 4/13/06, Russ Housley wrote:
> > >I suggest the following.  I think it adds the concept of 
> "similar looking."
> > >
> > >   When strings are mapped from internal representations to visual
> > representations,
> > >   sometimes two different strings will have the same or similar
> > visual representations.
> > >   This can happen for many different reasons, including use of
> > similar glyphs and
> > >   multiple items being combined into a single glyph.
> >
> >"Multiple items being combined into a single glyph" sounds like you 
> >mean "the use of composed characters" (e + ' equaling U+00E9, the 
> >Korean composed characters, vowels above consonant clusters 
> in certain 
> >languages).  Each of the cases in which that occurs  has a raft of 
> >different instances, each with their own tricky bits.  If 
> that is what 
> >you mean, I'd suggest using that phrasing, as it is a
> >more recognized term of art.   If you mean something else, I 
> don't think I'm
> >clear on what exactly you mean.
> >                                 Ted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >As a result of this situation,
> > >   people doing visual comparisons between two different names may
> > think they are
> > >   the same when in fact they are not.  Also, people may mistake
> > one string for
> > >   another.  Issuers of certificates and relying parties both need
> > to be aware of
> > >   this situation.
> > >
> > >This does not impose any untestable requirements.  Any concerns
> > with this text?
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >
> > >
> > >At 07:36 AM 4/13/2006, Santosh Chokhani wrote:
> > >>When strings are mapped from internal representations to visual 
> > >>representations, sometimes two different strings will 
> have the same 
> > >>visual representations.  This can happen due to similar glyphs, 
> > >>multiple items being combined into a single glyph among 
> other reasons.
> > >>When
> > >>this happens people doing visual comparisons between two 
> different 
> > >>names may think they are the same when in fact they are 
> not.  Also, 
> > >>people may mistake one string for another.  Issuers of 
> certificates 
> > >>and relying parties both need to be aware of these facts.
> 
> 
>