Russ: Do you think PKIX needs to go beyond the Annex developed for X.509, which now is the normative text? In other words, why can PKIX not adopt the X.509 CRL processing rules text or an abridged version of it? -----Original Message----- From: Russ Housley [mailto:housley@spyrus.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 3:22 PM To: Sean Mullan; wpolk@nist.gov Cc: ietf-pkix@imc.org Subject: Re: Processing CRLs without Issuing Distribution Points Sean: The CRL reasons extension determines whether the CRL covers all of the certificates or not. The handling of reasons turns out to be fairly complex. Tim Polk and I spent quite a bit of time at a white board working out the details. The CRL processing section in the soon-to-be-posted son-of-rfc2459 will hopefully address this. Tim: When ca we expect to see the next Internet-Draft? Russ At 11:21 AM 10/15/1999 -0400, Sean Mullan wrote: >RFC 2459 does not require that CRLs contain an Issuing >Distribution Point extension. > >Does this mean that a CA may issue *partial* CRLs without >including an Issuing Distribution Point Extension? > >If the answer is yes, it is not possible for a relying party to >safely determine if a certificate has not been revoked by inspecting >a CRL without an Issuing Distribution Point extension. It cannot >assume that a single CRL is an exhaustive list and it also cannot >assume a sequence of CRLs when taken as one is an exhaustive list. >Therefore a relying party cannot safely determine that the certificate in >question has not been revoked. > >RFC 2587 (LDAP v2 schema) states that CAs may choose to store partial >CRLs containing revoked CA certs only in the authorityRevocationList >attribute, but makes no mention as to whether or not those CRLs should >contain an Issuing Distribution Point extension. We claim they must in >order for a relying party to be sure that the CRL is a partial CRL >containing an exhaustive list of revoked CA certs only. > >Have there been any partial CRLs deployed w/o Issuing Distribution >Point extensions? > >We think that RFC 2459 should be changed (or made more clear) to make >the Issuing Distribution Point extension mandatory for CAs which split CRLs >according to reason codes or user/CA type, and that relying parties >should treat CRLs without an Issuing Distribution Point >extension as complete (exhaustive) CRLs. > >-- >Sean Mullan Email: sean.mullan@sun.com >Sun Microsystems Laboratories Tel: (781) 442-0926 >One Network Drive Fax: (781) 442-1692 >Burlington, MA 01803-0902