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Re: Why don't using Permanent Identifier on QC certificates?

At 05:49 AM 12/20/2000 -0800, Dennis Glatting wrote:

SSNs are a poor identity in the US. Agreed. The whole QC profile would have to be modified for use here. The basic idea is sound but does not fit into our structure. Other countries will probably now submit THEIR profiles to the IETF for inclusion as a standard.

For my part, I MUCH prefer the PI method to QC method (a separate attribute outside of the DN). For example, the State of Michigan could get an OID under the US (probably has one and does not know it), then assign one to the Department of Motor Vehicles. My license # now becomes a PI. I can now use a MI DMV cert to assert myself for a business cert with my bank.

If you are not interested in a discussion on US SSNs, you might skip the rest of this message.

In the US each person is suppose to have a Social Security Number
(SSN) however this number may not be unique as there have been cases
when the USG has handed out duplicates.
Many people over age 60 and some over 50 have duplicate #s. This happened in the 50s when wallets were sold in the US with 'sample' SSN cards. People buying those wallets thought those were their number. Most of these are probably out of the system by now, thanks in large measure to Mediare and Medicaid.

It is integrated into our birthing system that a person is assigned an SSN at birth however
births outside the system (e.g., home births) this isn't the case and
a SSN may not be obtained for years.
Only recently, since the IRS required SSNs for all dependents on the 1040. I remember the year that I got my 3 oldest kids their #s to comply with the new 1040 regs.

I believe in the Federal Witness Protection Program one can get a new SSN. Finally, I don't know if it is true,
It is.  There are other ways to get new SSNs too.


I am told one does not have to have a SSN however the US
system is structured that you do (read: life is a hassle).
If you never file taxes and pay cash for medical care and avoid banks, you can do quite nicely without one. Met some people in the hills of Tennessee some years ago. Their family has avoided all of this since 1792....

Boy, did they make a good drink.

And no, I did not EVEN ASK to see the still. That is why I am here to talk about it.


Robert Moskowitz
ICSA
Security Interest EMail: rgm-sec@htt-consult.com