RE: Attribute Certificate Policy??

["Christopher S. Francis" <chris.francis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Russ,

I would welcome the opportunity to work with someone at the ABA on this if
you have a contact there.  Let me know how I can help.

Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Housley, Russ [mailto:rhousley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Christopher S. Francis
Cc: ietf-pkix@xxxxxxx; rsabett@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Attribute Certificate Policy??

Chris:

Perhaps we can get some of the American Bar Assoc people to comment on the
CP and CPS issues.  I suspect that we will need to go through an
educational phase before we get any useful feedaback.  Perhaps they have
been looking at it and we are just unaware...

Russ

At 02:53 PM 3/7/2002 +0000, Stephen Farrell wrote:

>Chris,
>
>I'd be against the idea of proposing this as an update to the AC profile
>for the following reasons:
>
>- The profile is in the rfc editor's queue only awaiting son-of-2359 to
>   be processed and such an update would require a re-set back to WG last
>   call (a matter of months!)
>- I don't believe that the use of policy OIDs in ACs is at all well
>   understood and therefore I'd argue to omit it from the profile (one
>   of the things we tried to do with the AC profile was to only include
>   suff that we were pretty sure could work)
>- There may be entirely different policy considerations to address,
>   depending on the context for the use of ACs (e.g. supporting roles for
>   long-term signatures vs roles for access control).
>
>So, while I'd welcome work starting on this - for both process and
>technical reasons I believe the way to handle it is to write things up in
>a separate I-D. At some point in the future (say if the AC profile were
>being cycled at proposed standard), the two things could be merged if
>appropriate.
>
>Regards,
>Stephen.
>
>
>"Christopher S. Francis" wrote:
> >
> > Sure.  I can pursue it.  Since I don't spend a lot of time here, I'm not
> > exactly sure what the appropriate process is, but what I have in mind is
to
> > do the following:
> >
> > 1) Get some clarification from ANSI and whoever else has an opinion on
> > whether X.509 offers an extension that is intended to be used to carry
> > certificate policy information in attribute certificates.  Perhaps
> > certificatePolicies, perhaps acceptablePrivilegePolicies, perhaps they
had
> > something else in mind.
> > 2) Depending on what I find out, propose an update to the PKIX attribute
> > certificate profile that includes an extension to ACs to hold policy
> > information about the issuing authority.
> >
> > Based on your earlier responses, I understand that a certificatePolicies
> > extension could be included in an AC as long as it is marked
non-critical,
> > but it that's only because *anything* can be included as an extension if
> > it's marked non-critical.  It seems to me there should be something
> specific
> > in the profile to address the issue of certificate policy.
> >
> > Chris
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ietf-pkix@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ietf-pkix@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Housley, Russ
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:02 AM
> > To: Christopher S. Francis
> > Cc: Ietf-Pkix
> > Subject: Re: Attribute Certificate Policy??
> >
> > Chris:
> >
> > I am not aware of any work in this area.  You can take the lead.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> > At 05:41 PM 3/5/2002 -0500, Christopher S. Francis wrote:
> >
> > >Is there a defined mechanism to specify something analogous to a
> > >certificate policy in an attribute certificate?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >In reviewing the PKIX AC profile, I see that the syntax of the
attributes
> > >field is defined by the AttributeType OID, but rather than syntax per
se,
> > >I m looking for a way to specify the particular set of policies,
> > >practices, and procedures that the attribute authority was operating
under
> > >when it issued the attribute certificate.  Seems like this would be
> > >important to relying parties.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >X.509 includes an acceptablePrivilegePolicies extension that seems like
it
> > >might to the job, but it was apparently profiled out by PKIX.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Chris Francis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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