Re: Legal Notice on RFC3161 Uses and their possible infringement against Glassey/Mcneil Patents(et al).

["todd glassey" <todd.glassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harald Tveit Alvestrand" <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <iesg@xxxxxxxx>;
<ietf-pkix@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Legal Notice on RFC3161 Uses and their possible infringement
against Glassey/Mcneil Patents(et al).


>
> Todd,
>
> to be perfectly clear: Is this the technology IPR that you disclosed to
the
> IETF using the disclosure filed as
> <http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/glassey-mcneil-datum-ipr-general.txt>, dated
> May 29, 2003, and no other?

Yes

>
> Will you send in an updated IPR disclosure claiming specifically that you
> believe this IPR to be relevant to RFC 3161?

Harald - I have always said that RFC3161 is not in and of itself the
problem, although depending on what types of payloads the user adds into it,
it sure could be. IMO The real issue is what  you do with 3161 TST's and the
issue there is  that I  believe that almost anything you do with these
tokens is going to violate one patent or another or possibly a combination
of claims across several of the patents since they have similarities. And
yes including McNeils and my rights to the Controlling Access  patents.

Todd

>
> Standard Disclaimer: The IETF takes no position.......
>
>                    Harald
>
> --On 25. mars 2004 13:28 -0800 todd glassey
<todd.glassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Lets talk about legal stuff for a minute... and I don't really need
anyone
> > to respond to this unless they want to do so with my lawyers.
>
>
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