From madmin@tandem.com Thu Nov 11 14:56:45 1993 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.930818) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA06441; Thu, 11 Nov 93 14:56:47 PST Received: from blinky.ccmail.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.930818) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA06437; Thu, 11 Nov 93 14:56:45 PST Received: from smtpgate.ccmail.com by blinky.ccmail.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22759; Thu, 11 Nov 93 14:57:54 PST Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.ccmail.com id AA753058591 Thu, 11 Nov 93 14:56:31 pst Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 14:56:31 pst From: russf@ccmail.com Message-Id: <9310117530.AA753058591@smtpgate.ccmail.com> To: xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com Subject: XAPIA DirSynch Technical Committee Meeting, Mountain View. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I N V I T A T I O N TO A MEETING OF THE XAPIA DIRECTORY SYNCH TECHNICAL COMMITTEE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Venue : Lotus/cc:Mail building, 800 El Camino Real West, Mountain View, CA 94040. (At junction with Castro street in downtown MV) Date : 18th & 19th November 1993 Starting at 8:30. Sign in and ask for directions in the lobby. Agenda : Review minutes of previous meeting Discussion of requirements and review of source documents. Define a schedule for deliverables. Sketch out the structure of the draft standard. Define a list of primitives and services required. Also... Tutorial on aspects of Dir Synch. (In planning- Kirpal) Contact : Russ Ferriday, Lotus/cc:Mail russf@ccmail.com 415 335 6524 Kirpal Khalsa, Tandem khalsa_kirpal@tandem.com 408 285 4070 Map : El Camino Real San Francisco International | 101 North | | | \ | \ | | | | | Shoreline Blvd | +---------+-----------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | | | |+======+ | Church St | ||Lotus |-+ | |+======+ | | +---------+-----------------------------------------+ | Castro St | | D o w n t o w n M o u n t a i n V i e w | | | | \ | \ | | | | 101 South | San Jose International Please : RSVP by Tuesday 16 November to russf@ccmail.com. (Comments on the agenda should be sent to the mailing list.) Many thanks. I'm looking forward to meeting everyone on Thursday. Russ Ferriday. From madmin@tandem.com Mon Nov 22 16:21:12 1993 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.930818) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA18308; Mon, 22 Nov 93 16:21:15 PST Received: from comm.Tandem.COM by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.930818) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA18301; Mon, 22 Nov 93 16:21:12 PST Received: by comm.Tandem.COM (4.7/4.5) id AA19257; 22 Nov 93 16:21:08 +1600 Date: 22 Nov 93 16:11:00 +1600 From: KHALSA_KIRPAL@tandem.com Message-Id: <199311221621.AA19257@comm.Tandem.COM> To: xapia-dirsynch@suntan.tandem.com Subject: XAPIA DirSynch mailing list update Hi All, Please reply to let me know you've received this. Regards, Kirpal From madmin@tandem.com Wed Nov 24 09:55:15 1993 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.930818) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA14424; Wed, 24 Nov 93 09:55:17 PST Received: from blinky.ccmail.com (ccmail.COM) by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.930818) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA14420; Wed, 24 Nov 93 09:55:15 PST Received: from smtpgate.ccmail.com by blinky.ccmail.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04627; Wed, 24 Nov 93 09:55:08 PST Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.ccmail.com id AA754163579 Wed, 24 Nov 93 09:52:59 pst Date: Wed, 24 Nov 93 09:52:59 pst From: russf@ccmail.com Message-Id: <9310247541.AA754163579@smtpgate.ccmail.com> To: park-street!campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell) Cc: Khalsa_Kirpal@tandem.com, xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com, Jane_Chang_OSWare__FAX#1_604_436_3192_at_FAXOUT@smtpgate.ccmail.com Subject: Re[2]: XAPIA DirSynch Technical Committee Meeting, Mountain Hi Larry, We'd have been glad to see you here. Sorry you didn't make it. Greg Loux of SoftSwitch took minutes of the more important items, and is taking over the position of secretary for some period. Look forward to mail from Greg. The meeting was encouraging, and the main realization was that our canonical form for representing directory related info within 'synchspace' should be X.500 compatible - even in the absence of an X.500 implementation at the site. Kirpal is anxious to hand over chairmanship, feeling that he has been unable to devote enough time to the position. Two candidates were identified for this critical role, but other issues need to be clarified before we can proceed with a decision. Some of the discussion will take place online, and Ken Rossen will be making space available for anon ftp at nist. This will serve as a repository for docs. The xapia-dirsynch mailing list is in operation now (except for adressees with X.400 addressing only). Please ensure that you are receiving mail from the list. Best regards, - Russ Ferriday Lotus cc:Mail russf@ccmail.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: XAPIA DirSynch Technical Committee Meeting, Mountain Vie Author: park-street!campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell) at internet-mail Date: 11/24/93 10:53 AM I either received your mail late, or missed it. In reviewing my mailbox today I just came across it. I would like to have participated in that meeting. Did anyone take minutes? Will they be distributed? Can some of this discussion take place online (I hate travelling)... Thanks! - Larry Campbell The Boston Software Works, Inc. campbell@redsox.bsw.com From madmin@tandem.com Wed Dec 22 08:19:20 1993 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.931220) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA17240; Wed, 22 Dec 93 08:19:26 PST Received: from hitachi.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.931220) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA17236; Wed, 22 Dec 93 08:19:20 PST Received: from spd.hitachi.com (hicom.hitachi.com) by hitachi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15906; Wed, 22 Dec 93 08:25:07 PST Received: from old_peculiar.spd.hitachi.com by spd.hitachi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00735; Wed, 22 Dec 93 08:20:52 PST Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 08:20:52 PST From: cropper@spd.hitachi.com (Steve Cropper) Message-Id: <9312221620.AA00735@spd.hitachi.com> To: xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com Subject: Re: OIW Dec 93 Minutes Hi Everyone, Who attend the OIW earlier this month? Was there a date for the next meeting set? (Is it the same as we discussed during the cc:Mail meeting - i.e. At Hitachi on or around Jan. 20th)? Was a Chair identified or is this still a floating issues? Is there anymore data in the way of Minutes from this meeting? Did we ever publish minutes from the Mountainview meeting in November? I just want to try and stay on top of things dispite my inability to attend OIW this month. Any information would be greatfully received. Thanks Steve Cropper Manager, Technical Services Hitachi Computer Products (America) Inc. ________________________________________________________________________________ > From pl0135@mail.psi.net Tue Dec 21 07:37:01 1993 > Sub-Organization: Computer Systems Laboratory (CSL) > Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are those of the sender > and do not reflect NIST policy or agreement. > Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 09:51:42 -0500 > From: "John M. Hunt" > Subject: OIW Dec 93 Minutes > To: NIST DS SIG > Organization: Sita > X-Mailer: PSILink (2.0a) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Content-Length: 2688 > > Minutes for OIW DS-SIG Dec. 1993 > > The DSSIG spent its time in two break out groups, directory synchronization > and management of directory. There were no community reports. > > Directory Synchronization > ----------------------- > This breakout group included several people from the XAPIA group working > on directory synchronization. There is an open mailing list on this topic run > by XAPIA, to join the list send a request to "khalsa_kirpal@tandem.com". > The group was able to reach a number of major conclusions: The solution to > the problem is to define a standard file format, not an API, not a new > protocol. The format chosen must be extensible from the outset, this means > a mechanism to introduce new tags for new data items. There are a number > of problems in making such tags work across many organizations. For > example, the tags must guarantee uniqueness. Rather then try to set up the > necessary mechanisms to manage this, the group hoped to adapt an existing > mechanism. It appears that OSI Object Identifiers (OIDs) are well suited for > the role. Having gotten this far the group realized that their requirements > were converging on those of the NADF. It was concluded that the group > should take a fresh look at the NADF CAN format. The work will be > continued at the next XAPIA. > > Management of Directory > ---------------------- > This breakout group included Dr. Adrian Taung from the University of > Missouri and a number of his students. The group discussed a requirements > paper (DSSIG-93-12-08) By Ella Gardner of Mitre and several architecture > papers (DSSIG-93-12-12 through DSSIG-93-12-14) from UMKC. On the > requirements paper the main changes that the group made was to remove any > aspect that did not need to be standardized. On the architecture papers the > group felt that management of the DUAs was out of scope and should be > removed. It is currently planned to submit revised versions of the papers to > ISO/IEC JTC1/SC21/WG4. > > Convergence > ------------ > The Convergence Task Group requested information from the DSSIG on use > of X.500 in the Internet. This was compiled by Ken Rossen and sent as an > informal liaison. > > Plenary Motions > --------------- > To send a liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC21/WG4 with contributions on > directory management > Y:8 N:0 A:0 > To send a liaison to EWOS EGDIR and AOW DIRSIG withdrawing from our > commitment to produce ADI41 > Y:8 N:0 A:0 > To send a liaison to SC21/WG4 volunteering to contribute on 1993 directory > PICS Performa > Y:8 N:0 A:0 > > Action Items > ------------ > Ella Gardner to get changes management papers from UMKC > Ken Rossen to talk to Simon Batley, the conformance rappatour, about > existing abstract test suites > > > From madmin@tandem.com Mon Dec 27 22:07:02 1993 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.931220) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA28534; Mon, 27 Dec 93 22:07:05 PST Received: from comm.Tandem.COM by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.931220) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA28530; Mon, 27 Dec 93 22:07:02 PST Received: by comm.Tandem.COM (4.7/4.5) id AA22329; 27 Dec 93 22:07:09 +1600 Date: 27 Dec 93 22:03:00 +1600 From: KHALSA_KIRPAL@tandem.com Message-Id: <199312272207.AA22329@comm.Tandem.COM> To: xapia-dirsynch@suntan.tandem.com Subject: 12/27/93 XAPIA DirSynch mailing list update Hi all, Merry Christmas! Happy New Year! I survived India including an interesting 22 hours on the Grand Trunk Road. An experience not to be missed. Especially if you're into bumper cars or roller coasters or horror movies (the kind with the close up of the freight train bearing down on you). Unfortunately I neglected to forward my mail to my Bombay address while I was gone so couldn't read mail till my return. I've updated the list based on mail received. I've attached the current list. If you know I've left anyone off who should be on, please send me mail. Also, some of you may notice multiple entries. I added multiple entries if you're new and the address you sent in the body of your request was different than the address in the FROM part of your message header (just in case). If you receive two messages let me know. Also, if you have alternate addresses you'd prefer, send mail. Alexis or Greg or Ken, Wasn't someone going to send me a mass list of OIW names to add?? Send replies to let me know you've received this. current list: list as of 12/27/93 ed_owens@ccmail.com Eugene@beyond.com Wardb@linkage.com alex-rassey@retix.com beckhardt@iris.com campbell@redsox.bsw.com crotty@ralvm6.vnet.ibm.com gtl@softsw.ssw.com kenr@shl.com khalsa_kirpal@tandem.com mstieglitz@worldtalk.com nhs@ssw.com niraj@cup.hp.com russf@ccmail.com ryatco@vnet.ibm.com pchang@vnet.ibm.com pchang@cup.hp.com s_cropper@hitachi.com c_nguyen@hitachi.com alexisb@atc.boeing.com chang@vancouver.osiware.bc.ca yeaw@cup.hp.com mszeleny@ccmail.com chrisl@retix.com old@sunbim.be c.robbins@nexor.co.uk John.Dale@mail.Citicorp.com John.Dale@charon.citicorp.com molson@tuxedo.enet.dec.com molson@am_tuxedo.lkgmts.lkg.mts.dec.com erik@wimsey.com adrier@mason1.gmu.edu eric@isci.com nakumar@oracle.com NAKUMAR@us.oracle.com Chuck.Bann@omail.wang.com Regards, Kirpal From madmin@tandem.com Wed Feb 9 11:41:48 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940113) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA11969; Wed, 9 Feb 94 11:41:51 PST Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940113) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA11965; Wed, 9 Feb 94 11:41:48 PST Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA15322; Wed, 9 Feb 94 11:42:48 -0800 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2D593CD8@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Wed, 09 Feb 94 11:43:20 PST From: "Bor, Alexis" To: dssig , XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: Minutes from January DIR-SYNCH Meeting Date: Wed, 09 Feb 94 10:23:00 PST Message-Id: <2D593CD8@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 447 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I am attaching an ASCII text version of the minutes from the January DIR-SYNCH meeting. I expect to have postscript, RTF, and Word versions at nemo.ncsl.nist.gov soon and will send another message out at that time. Alexis Bor bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com Page XAPIA Directory Synchronization SIG Meeting Minutes January 20th 1994 - January 21st 1994 DISTRIBUTION: Chair: Alexis Bor (BOEING) Minute Taker: Steve Cropper (HITACHI) Attendees: Christopher Nguyen (HITACHI) Fred Stein (HITACHI) Peter Chang (HP) Yea-Cheng Wang (HP) Eva Kuiper (OSIWare - InfoNet CSCL) Kirpal Khalsa (Tandem) Others: XAPIA Steering Committee Members ______________________________________________________ Agenda: 1. Review and approve minutes 2. Action Item Review 3. New Business and Submissions 4. Continue work from previous meeting 5. Discuss EMA Directory Synch Status presentation / panel discussion for April 1994 conference (Alexis to do this) 6. Discuss status of CAN - possibility of bringing in an expert 7. Next meeting(s) 8. Review new action Items 9. Other items (if any) - Where to get OIDs - Attributes with similar values in different environments - Vendor attribute requirements - Microsoft/Apple Agreement - Identify Where and how Data is Mastered etc. - Name Translation - Where and how to publish our findings (XAPIA, NIST, RFC? ...) - Kirpal to bring in Mailing List for Friday session - File formats - Schedule - Report to Steering Committee 10. Close meeting Goal of Meetings is to get a rough outline together so that need for meetings is reduced and work can progress via Email. ______________________________________________________ Minutes review: Errata PAGE 1 Kirpal's address should read: khalsa_kirpal@tandem.com Fourth Paragraph in 1.0 beginning "Extensibility should ..." has an incomplete sentence beginning "OIDs have been" ? Agenda will include OID discussion so strike OIDs have been from the Previous minutes. PAGE 2 Item 2. Specifies a "new requirement". This is not a new requirement it has been covered in previous meetings. Bottom of Page 2 discusses different variants of "D". Steve C asked why the name wouldn't be separate Attributes for flexibility. (New Agenda Item added to deal with this) [Alexis: We need to have a set of recommendations in the final document defining the best way to handle Dir. Synch.] PAGE 3 Point 4. Alexis: We need to solicit from vendors what attributes they support so that we can at least specify mappings in final document. Enter new Agenda Item for the meeting to discuss this. Figure No. 2 discussed and it was agreed that it is no longer applicable and the meeting at NIST agreed that Figure 5 on Page 5 was the agreed upon model. Should have statement before point 5 on page 3 that reads "We migrated from the model in figure 2 to the model in figure 5" At Point 5 discussing CAN definitions from NADF specification SD-7 Alexis handed out the SD-7 document. PAGE 4 Discussion on Figure 3 lead to the need for a discussion of Address Space as a new agenda item. PAGE 5 Figure 5 lead to a request from Peter as to what the scope of the Dir. Synch. mechanism is. Is it just the Flat file format or do we need to cover protocol also. Kirpal: The document we come up with MUST (via annexes) describe solutions outside of X.500. These annexes might be able to reference NIST OIW agreements which could refer to agreements. A publication mechanism should be discussed as a new agenda item. ______________________________________________________ Action Item Review: 1. Alexis still to do this but didn't have time - will do this by next meeting. 1/21 - OPEN 2. No progress so far, Alexis will adopt this action (due to proximity) and will try to talk next week. 1/21 - OPEN 3. Alexis has talked to Steve Kille who is putting together a Dir Synch. Paper. The ISODE are looking to using CDC solution for Dir Synch. CDC may write the paper that Steve was going to. 1/21 - OPEN 4. Alexis talked to Ken Rossen to get Al Grimstead to present the SD-7 document. This could cost $2000 (Al is a consultant). Roger Mizumori (BOEING) will ask the XAPIA Committee to fund this. Alexis wants to do this sometime in March/April timeframe. 1/21 - OPEN ______________________________________________________ New Business: All new business was added as agenda items (see above under Other Items ) ______________________________________________________ Continue Work From Previous Meeting: Major effort during the meeting in addition to the rest of the Agenda items was to define the Document structure. This will facilitate the work effort during the period between face to face meetings. The Document Outline is shown on the next page: Table Of Contents Introduction Scope Glossary Of Terms Model(s) - Functional Architecture Access Control/Security Management/Administration - Error Handling - Billing Issues Synchronization Space Service Description - Behavior - Interface File Format Schema & Object Definitions Registration Process Directory Information Ownership/Mastering Conformance Requirements For Future Study Appendices Examples Allocation Of Object Ids Recommended Practices References ______________________________________________________ Discuss EMA Directory Synch. Status and presentation (Alexis scheduled to do this in April). Intent to give out a rough draft of XAPIA Dir. Synch . document at EMA assuming it is in a reasonable state to do so. Alexis will contact Debbie Burkhart in this regard. ______________________________________________________ Discuss status of CAN - possibility of bringing in an expert: NADF documents SD-9, SD-7 and SD-4 were distributed for Review This discussion covered as previous action Item. Ken Rossen will try to persuade Al to attend NIST OIW at March. See next meetings. ______________________________________________________ Other items: - Where to get OIDs It was decided that registration of OIDs for Synchronization purposes would be carried out by the Registering Organization (Company). If the Company didn't have (or want) its own ARC from the ISO-Country-US-Organization ARC then they could register via NIST-OIW DSSIG. This would be under a ...OIW-DSSIG ARC which the nominated naming authority is the OIW DSSIG. XAPIA Dir. Synch. Spec. will define a Dir. Synch. Object Class OID which will be adopted from the OIW DSSIG ARC. Discussion of Dir. Synch. Object Class will be covered in later discussions. - Attributes with similar values in different environments Discussion evolved from agenda item related to OID specification. It was determined that XAPIA should specify an Object Class for Directory Synchronization which could be used either integral to an X.500 Database or in canonical form in a non-X.500 environment. Synch space is set up from any media, E-Mail to Carrier Pigeon. Synch. Space contains Synchronization Agreement (only need one per Mail System) so that when MSMail wants data it asks for it from Synch. Space and Synch Space applies rules and ships back data in form that Requesting system needs it. Model: - Synch Space Service defining behavior (propogation requirements, error handling etc.) - Synch Space Service Interface definition (File format, Service Operation definitions, Propogation.Access Ctrl Activities). Alexis: By using this model then prototyping (at Boeing or other places) can be achieved to validate Spec. Issues: Missing data, Duplicate data, Resolution of unknown names (Smith001), File format, Uniqueness, Access Control, Rule mapping, completeness, - Vendor/User participation liason letter A list of potentially interested parties (Vendors and Users) was compiled. Alexis will compose a liason letter for distribution in an effort to solicit contributions and participation in the Directory Synchronization effort. The list: cc:Mail Microsoft Beyond Mail DaVinci WordPerfect Oracle HP Openmail Softswitch Apple Wang Bull IBM O/V Worldtalk CDS Boston S/W ICL Works DEC Retix Marben Alprange Maxware Nexor ISODE IETF MHS-DS OSI- DS Proj. Longbud Novell EMA(all Siemens/ Sun members) Nixdorf AT&T Northern User Groups NIST CSL Telecom COS X/Open OSF XAPIA Members NADF Vendors in Banyan Lotus Notes OIW, EWOS, AOW Wollongong XAPIA OMG MadMan Calendaring - Microsoft/Apple Agreement Eva to contact Neil Koorland (Microsoft) for more information. - Identify Where and how Data is Mastered etc. It is our assumption that this will be a natural fall out of the document as the Model is evolved in the document. Example of Synch process - Name Translation Rule mapping (taking MSMail Names into cc:Mail names) is out of the scope of the Dir. Synch. SIG. The mechanism for doing this will be a local matter/implementation issue. The main goal of the Directory Synch. work will be to ensure that sufficient standardized attributes (type and value(s)) are available via the Directory Synchronization mechanism to facilitate Name Translation. This mechanism will be addressed in the document. - Where and how to publish our findings (XAPIA, NIST, RFC? ...) Discussion covered how to publish SIGs specification. The following is a proposal of where coverage is needed: Criteria - Electonically Available in: WORD PS TXT Location - OIW DSSIG, XAPIA, INFO RFC. Investigate OSF RFC Liason to X/Open It was determined that Alexis would confirm with XAPIA steering committee that these proposals would be acceptable. - Schedule - Report to Steering Committee Alexis was actioned to determine what schedule we should be working to in conjunction with the steering Committee. - Kirpal to bring in Mailing List for Friday session Kirpal brought in the current Mailing List during the Friday session. This information has been incorporated into the Table at the beginning of this document. - File formats It was determined that as part of the presentation from NADF (See Action Item #4 above) the file format used by CAN should be covered. This was the format that was agreed to by the previous meeting in Gaithersberg. ______________________________________________________ New Actions: 5. Alexis to talk to CDS to get them involved. 6. Alexis to contact Debbie Burkhart at EMA regarding EMA presentation. 7. Alexis will report SIG status to XAPIA Steering Committee. 8. Eva will contact Neil Koorland (Microsoft) and report back to the SIG the status of the recently announced Apple- Microsoft Directory Synchronization agreement. 9. Alexis to determine Steering Committee requirements for a deliverable from the SIG. Between this meeting and the meeting in March Alexis will use this to determine a Schedule. 10. Alexis to determine how to liase with the companies listed in the table above (see "Vendor/User Participation Liason Letter " 11. Kirpal to get the correct designation for use of an OIW DSSIG OID. ______________________________________________________ Next Meetings: At NIST-OIW SIG 3/15 - 3/17, at which time it is hope that Al Grimstead will present the NADF CAN. At EMA Meeting 4/18 - 4/22, at which Alexis will present status of SIG. At NIST-OIW SIG 6/14 - 6/16. Roster of Current and Previous Attendees Name Org Phone Fax Internet e-mail Sunil Bajaj Mobil 703-846- 703-846- bajaj@mcimail.com 3796 3939 Chuck Bann Wang 508-967- 508-452- chuck.bann@omail.wa 2764 0896 ng.com Sharon BNR 613-765- 613-763- boeyen@bnr.ca Boeyen 4931 8385 Alexis Bor Boeing 206-865- 206-865- bora@ct.si.cs.boein 3631 6903 g.com Peter Chang HP 408-447- 408-447- pchang@cup.hp.com 3474 3660 Ella Mitre 703-883- 703-883- epg@gateway.mitre.c Gardner 5826 7142 om John Hunt SITA 404-850- 404-850- jmhunt@atl.sita.int 5184 5890 Kirpal Tandem 408-285- 408-285- Khalsa_Kirpal@tande Khalsa 4070 4324 m.com Eva Kuiper OSIWARE 604-436- 604-436- Kuiper 2922 3192 @vancouver.osiware. bc.ca Naresh Oracle 415-506- 415-506- nakumar@oracle.com Kumar 3140 7103 Terry IBM Fed Sys 301-240- longstreth@vnet.ibm Longstreth 6216 .com Greg Loux Soft-Switch 215-640- 215-640- gtl@ssw.com 7428 7550 Ken Rossen SHL kenr@shl.com Systemhouse Rich Schilk JITC 602-538- 602-538- rschilk 5515 5495 @huachuca- jitcosi.army.mil Chun Yo Unisys 215-993- 215-993- Shen 7306 6110 Hemal McDonnell 703-883- 703-883- hemal@mdsol1.mdc.co Wadhia Douglas 3962 3889 m +... From madmin@tandem.com Tue Mar 8 09:39:14 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA11333; Tue, 8 Mar 94 09:39:16 PST Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA11328; Tue, 8 Mar 94 09:39:14 PST Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA09193; Tue, 8 Mar 94 09:40:27 -0800 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2D7CB8A3@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Tue, 08 Mar 94 09:40:51 PST From: "Bor, Alexis" To: XAPIA Dir Synch Cc: dssig Subject: Reminder - Directory Synch Meeting Next Week Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 09:35:00 PST Message-Id: <2D7CB8A3@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 27 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Just a reminder for everyone that the XAPIA Directory Synchronization Technical Sub-Committee will be meeting next week, March 15 and 16, at NIST in Gaithersburg, Maryland, in a joint meeting with the OIW Directory Services SIG. During the meeting, we will be focused on directory synchronzation issues on Tuesday and Wednesday. I have been soliciting volunteers and contributors to step up and present their approaches at this meeting. So far, Greg Loux has agreed to discuss his company's approach. I am still hoping that we will be able to get an NADF representative to discuss the CAN technology (Ken Rossen is working this issue). I will be bringing with me a draft directory synch document with me for review during the meeting. Minutes from the January meeting are available on nemo.ncsl.nist.gov in the dssig area. When you log into the machine do the following: cd /pub/oiw/dssig/Public binary get MIN0194.DOC This will get you the Word for Windows version of the minutes. There is also an RTF formatted one for those who can't handle MS Word. -- Alexis From madmin@tandem.com Sun Mar 20 03:28:13 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA05196; Sun, 20 Mar 94 03:29:18 PST Received: from comm.Tandem.COM (comm.cpd.tandem.com) by suntan (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA05186; Sun, 20 Mar 94 03:28:13 PST Received: by comm.Tandem.COM (4.10/4.5) id AA11577; 20 Mar 94 03:26:51 -0800 Date: 18 Mar 94 16:43:00 -0800 From: KHALSA_KIRPAL@tandem.com Message-Id: <199403200326.AA11577@comm.Tandem.COM> To: xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com Subject: current mailing list Soon to be updated! ed_owens@ccmail.com eugene@beyond.com wardb@linkage.com alex-rassey@retix.com beckhardt@iris.com campbell@redsox.bsw.com crotty@ralvm6.vnet.ibm.com gtl@softsw.ssw.com kenr@shl.com khalsa_kirpal@tandem.com mstieglitz@worldtalk.com nhs@ssw.com niraj@cup.hp.com russf@ccmail.com ryatco@vnet.ibm.com /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current pchang@vnet.ibm.com pchang@cup.hp.com s_cropper@hitachi.com c_nguyen@hitachi.com chang@vancouver.osiware.bc.ca yeaw@cup.hp.com mszeleny@ccmail.com chrisl@retix.com old@sunbim.be c.robbins@nexor.co.uk john.dale@mail.citicorp.com molson@tuxedo.enet.dec.com erik@wimsey.com adrier@mason1.gmu.edu eric@isci.com nakumar@us.oracle.com bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com kuiper@osison.osiware.bc.ca epg@gateway.mitre.org sri@qsun.att.com markh@ospamm.ssw.dhhs.gov chuck.bann@om.wang.com vidar.sandvik@telepost.telemax.no boeyen@bnr.ca nakumar@oracle.com From madmin@tandem.com Fri Mar 25 11:22:37 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA07824; Fri, 25 Mar 94 11:22:39 PST Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA07820; Fri, 25 Mar 94 11:22:37 PST Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA18969; Fri, 25 Mar 94 11:24:09 -0800 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2D933A6D@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Fri, 25 Mar 94 11:24:29 PST From: "Bor, Alexis" To: dssig , XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: Minutes of March Directory Synchronization Meeting Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 11:18:00 PST Message-Id: <2D933A6D@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 17 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I have moved the Directory Synchronization minutes on-line at nemo.ncsl.nist.gov. The files will be at first in /oiw/dssig/Public and will soon be moved to /oiw/dssig/xapia. The files are min0315.ww2 (Word for Windows 2.0) min0315.doc (Word for Windows 6.0) min0315.mcw (Word for Macintosh 5.1) members.xls (Excel spreadsheet with member roster) Alexis Bor bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com From madmin@tandem.com Fri Apr 1 08:43:51 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA20071; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:43:54 PST Received: from comm.Tandem.COM (comm.cpd.tandem.com) by suntan (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA20067; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:43:51 PST Received: by comm.Tandem.COM (4.10/4.5) id AA25913; 1 Apr 94 08:44:33 -0800 Date: 1 Apr 94 08:34:00 -0800 From: KHALSA_KIRPAL@tandem.com Message-Id: <199404010844.AA25913@comm.Tandem.COM> To: xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com Subject: please send requests to ------------ ORIGINAL ATTACHMENT -------- SENT 03-31-94 FROM KHALSA_KIRPAL @COMM2 Hi all, For the next few weeks, please advise people wishing to have their addresses added to the XAPIA DirSynch mailing list to send their requests to the following address: srivastava_chandra@tandem.com. Regards, Kirpal From madmin@tandem.com Wed Apr 6 08:09:53 1994 Received: by suntan (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA22362; Wed, 6 Apr 94 08:09:58 PDT Received: from gateway.mitre.org ([128.29.31.10]) by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA22356; Wed, 6 Apr 94 08:09:53 PDT Return-Path: Received: from cutter.mitre.org by gateway.mitre.org (5.61/SMI-2.2) id AA18831; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:09:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:09:13 -0400 From: epg@gateway.mitre.org (Ella P. Gardner) Message-Id: <9404061509.AA18831@gateway.mitre.org> To: xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com Subject: File Format Cc: epg@gateway.mitre.org For the digital signature in the header, how about algorithmIdentifier for the signature? (Suggested by Elliott Ginsburg) Ella From madmin@tandem.com Wed Apr 6 14:17:00 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA00184; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:17:11 PDT Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA00173; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:17:00 PDT Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA00199; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:18:35 -0700 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2DA32710@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Wed, 06 Apr 94 14:18:08 PDT From: "Bor, Alexis" To: madmin , xapia-dirsynch Cc: epg Subject: RE: File Format Date: Wed, 06 Apr 94 14:11:00 PDT Message-Id: <2DA32710@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 28 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 ---------- >From: madmin >To: xapia-dirsynch >Cc: epg >Subject: File Format >Date: Wednesday, April 06, 1994 11:09AM > > >For the digital signature in the header, how about algorithmIdentifier for >the signature? (Suggested by Elliott Ginsburg) > I was disconnected from the network for a few days (since thursday or friday of last week). I didn't get any mail for a few days, so I am responding without the discussion threads. If someone could fill me in off-line I would appreciate it. But my feeling to the above message is that I think that would work great. Alexis Bor bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com >Ella > From madmin@tandem.com Wed Apr 6 16:16:16 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA02390; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:16:18 PDT Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA02386; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:16:16 PDT Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA12340; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:17:56 -0700 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2DA3430A@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Wed, 06 Apr 94 16:17:30 PDT From: "Bor, Alexis" To: dssig , XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: Dir Synch Meeting at EMA Date: Wed, 06 Apr 94 16:11:00 PDT Message-Id: <2DA3430A@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 11 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Just a quick note to let everyone know that on Friday morning of EMA (April 22) we will be having a dir synch meeting. The afternoon before is a meeting of the EMA Directory committee which I plan on attending as the DIR SYNC representative and update them on our work. The friday meeting will start at 8:30 (but check for last minute changes). It will be a joint EMA/XAPIA/OIW meeting. -- Alexis bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com From madmin@tandem.com Fri Apr 8 09:22:06 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA08550; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:22:07 PDT Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA08546; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:22:06 PDT Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA29856; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:23:48 -0700 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2DA584F7@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Fri, 08 Apr 94 09:23:19 PDT From: "Bor, Alexis" To: dssig , XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: POLL- Dir Sync Meeting at EMA - or via E-Mail? Date: Fri, 08 Apr 94 09:17:00 PDT Message-Id: <2DA584F7@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I need to get a headcount to see how many people plan to come to the friday morning, April 22 dir sync meeting at EMA. I am starting to think that we should consider doing this review electronically or via a teleconference after the EMA week. What do people think? Please respond quickly. Thanks. Alexis bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com From madmin@tandem.com Fri Apr 8 17:23:08 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA19009; Fri, 8 Apr 94 17:23:11 PDT Received: from technet1.shl.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA19000; Fri, 8 Apr 94 17:23:08 PDT Received: from labpskjr.shl.com by technet1.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA19172; Fri, 8 Apr 94 17:20:05 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 19:25:46 -0500 From: Ken Rossen To: "Bor, Alexis" Subject: Re: POLL- Dir Sync Meeting at EMA - or via E-Mail? Cc: dssig , XAPIA Dir Synch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Your message <2DA584F7@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> of Fri, 08 Apr 94 09:17:00 PDT Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=US-ASCII To Alexis's message I add my encouragement for you all to respond with your plans for attendance of a proposed Directory Synchronization meeting colocated with the EMA in two weeks. I plan to attend. -- KENR@SHL.COM From madmin@tandem.com Fri Apr 8 18:28:34 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA20079; Fri, 8 Apr 94 18:28:37 PDT Received: from osison.osiware.bc.ca by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA20075; Fri, 8 Apr 94 18:28:34 PDT Received: by osison.osiware.bc.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01930; Fri, 8 Apr 94 18:28:03 PDT Date: 8 Apr 94 18:27 PDT X400-Trace: ca*infonet*osiware; Arrival 8 Apr 94 18:27 PDT Action: Relayed Priority: normal Ua-Content-Id: 940408841 P1-Message-Id: ca*infonet*osiware;9404081827580041307 Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text From: Eva Kuiper To: "Bor, Alexis" Cc: dssig , XAPIA Dir Synch In-Reply-To: <2DA584F7@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Message-Id: <940408841*kuiper@vancouver.osiware.bc.ca> Subject: POLL- Dir Sync Meeting at EMA - or via E-Mail? Alexis, I will be at the April 22 dir sync meeting. Eva From madmin@tandem.com Mon Apr 11 12:37:53 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA17351; Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:37:55 PDT Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA17346; Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:37:53 PDT Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA08899; Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:39:37 -0700 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2DA9A759@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:39:05 PDT From: "Bor, Alexis" To: dssig , XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: Re: POLL- Dir Sync Meeting at EMA - or via E-Mail? Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:33:00 PDT Message-Id: <2DA9A759@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 6 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I have received many positive responses. We will definitely meet on Friday, April 22. I am looking to start at 8:30 so that people can fly out later in the afternoon, if they need to. -- Alexis From madmin@tandem.com Fri Apr 15 19:56:57 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA24375; Fri, 15 Apr 94 19:56:59 PDT Received: from nic.cerf.net by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA24371; Fri, 15 Apr 94 19:56:57 PDT Received: from hpux.peerlogic.com (peerlogic.com [134.24.7.204]) by nic.cerf.net (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA00901 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 19:56:51 -0700 Received: from ccmail_gw.peerlogic.com by hpux.peerlogic.com with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11484; Fri, 15 Apr 94 17:40:12 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by peerlogic.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A03356; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:23:35 PST Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:23:35 PST From: kkhalsa Message-Id: <9404151623.A03356@peerlogic.com> To: xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com Subject: New address and Phone number Hi all, My new email address is: kkhalsa@peerlogic.com My new phone number is: 415-252-2875 x414 PeerLogic really is a startup! What fun! I think you can also reach me as kirpal@peerlogic.com. Unfortunately I've got a conflict next week with the XAPIA meeting and won't be able to make it. Customers !?! Regards, Kirpal From madmin@tandem.com Sun Jun 5 16:14:47 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA06158; Sun, 5 Jun 94 16:14:49 PDT Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA06154; Sun, 5 Jun 94 16:14:47 PDT Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA10081; Sun, 5 Jun 94 16:38:39 -0700 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2DF261ED@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Sun, 05 Jun 94 16:38:21 PDT From: "Bor, Alexis" To: XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: Meeting Reminder and NAG Warning Date: Sun, 05 Jun 94 16:30:00 PDT Message-Id: <2DF261ED@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 23 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Reminder: The next XAPIA Directory Synchronization meeting will be held June 14 and 15 (Tuesday and Wednesday) in conjunction with the OIW Directory SIG (DSSIG) meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland. The DSSIG is planning to meet from June 14 - June 16 (Tuesday through Thursday). If the Dir Sync work needs to run over, I plan to be available on Thursday to continue this work. NAG NOTICE: In the next day or two, I will contacting everyone who has action items outstanding (including me). Please stay tuned. Alexis Bor Boeing Chair, XAPIA Directory Synchronization Technical SubCommittee bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com 206-865-3631 From madmin@tandem.com Mon Jul 11 16:11:59 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA03648; Mon, 11 Jul 94 16:12:01 PDT Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA03644; Mon, 11 Jul 94 16:11:59 PDT Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA07538; Mon, 11 Jul 94 16:14:14 -0700 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2E21D238@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Mon, 11 Jul 94 16:14:00 PDT From: "Bor, Alexis" To: XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: Interim Meeting in Chicago and other Notes Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 16:04:00 PDT Message-Id: <2E21D238@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 34 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 This is just a reminder that we will be meeting in Chicago next Monday. The primary purpose of this meeting is to try to complete as much as possible of the document and if things work out, have an NADF representative explain some of the technical details so that we can incorporate their work, as appropriate. It is still unclear whether or not we will have a representative from NADF there, but no matter what, we must move the document forward. I will be bringing a laptop to the meeting and expect to have lots of edits. Also, I plan to stay on for the week and attend the EMA Directory Committee meeting which will be held on Wednesday. Here are the meeting details for those who can make it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- I have a room change for the XAPIA Meeting in Chicago. It will now be held at the Hotel Inter-Continental Chicago in the Toledo Room on the Fifth Floor. The time is the same, 10:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m., on Monday, July 18. The room is being arranged by the EMA - thanks to Paul Moniz of EMA. If you plan to stay on for the EMA meetings, please contact Paul at Paul Moniz, Project Manager Electronic Messaging Association Phone: 703/524-5550 X.400: G=paul; S=moniz; O=ema; A=mci; C=us Internet: pmoniz@ema.org Hope to see you there. Please RSVP to me so that I can make sure that we have enough facilities. -- Alexis From madmin@tandem.com Mon Jul 11 19:56:09 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA06794; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:56:17 PDT Received: from ursa-major.spdcc.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA06788; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:56:09 PDT Received: by ursa-major.spdcc.com with sendmail-5.65/4.7 id ; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:55:51 -0400 Received: from park-st.bsw.com (park-street.bsw.com) by redsox.bsw.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28340; Mon, 11 Jul 94 21:19:20 EDT Received: from fenway.bsw.com by park-st.bsw.com (5.65/1.35) id AA18772; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:17:03 -0400 Message-Id: <9407120217.AA18772@park-st.bsw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 22:17:20 -0400 To: "Bor, Alexis" , XAPIA Dir Synch From: park-st!campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell) Subject: Re: Interim Meeting in Chicago and other Notes Do you have a draft document for review? I will not be in Chicago (I hate travelling and anyway I am too busy to tear myself away) but I do want to stay informed about this work. - Larry Campbell The Boston Software Works campbell@bsw.com From madmin@tandem.com Tue Jul 12 13:09:49 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA20976; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:09:51 PDT Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA20972; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:09:49 PDT Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA13617; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:12:04 -0700 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2E22F902@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:11:46 PDT From: "Bor, Alexis" To: XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: More Details on Directory Sync Meeting in Chicago Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:02:00 PDT Message-Id: <2E22F902@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 7 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Al Grimstad of Bellcore will be at the meeting and will present the NADF CAN approach at 10:00. I am expecting that we will take about an hour on his presentation and tutorial, with any questions being resolved by the end of Lunch. -- Alexis From madmin@tandem.com Wed Jul 13 12:32:38 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA12443; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:32:40 PDT Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA12439; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:32:38 PDT Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA09089; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:34:55 -0700 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2E2441CE@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:34:38 PDT From: "Bor, Alexis" To: xapia-dirsynch Subject: Dir Sync Meeting Location Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:25:00 PDT Message-Id: <2E2441CE@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 14 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 The XAPIA Directory Synchronization meeting location is: The Inter-Continental Hotel 505 N Michigan Ave Chicago, Il 60611 (312)944-4100 We will be starting at 10:00 AM in the Toledo Room on the fifth floor. Alexis Bor Chair, XAPIA Technical Subcommittee on Directory Synchronization bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com 206-865-3631 From madmin@tandem.com Wed Aug 17 07:10:28 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA25675; Wed, 17 Aug 94 07:10:29 PDT Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA25671; Wed, 17 Aug 94 07:10:28 PDT Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA16922; Wed, 17 Aug 94 07:13:05 -0700 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2E521AF9@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Wed, 17 Aug 94 07:13:13 PDT From: "Bor, Alexis" To: dssig , XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: Dir Sync Chicago Minutes and New Draft Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 07:07:00 PDT Message-Id: <2E521AF9@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 19 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 At our chicago meeting we were able to come up with a file format. Please take a look at this information before our next meeting - September 13-15 in Gaithersburg. I have copied the following files to nemo.ncsl.nist.gov into the oiw/dssig/xapia directory: chicago.doc Meeting minutes in Word for Windows 6.0 format chicago.w2 Meeting minutes in Word for Windows 2.0 format chicago.mac Meeting minutes in Word for Mac 5.0 format final006.doc Draft dir sync document (Word for Windows 6.0) final006.w2 Draft dir sync document (Word for Windows 2.0) final006.mac Draft dir sync document (Word for Mac 5.0) If someone needs a different format, please let me know. Alexis Bor bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com From madmin@tandem.com Fri Aug 26 13:30:53 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA03062; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:30:56 PDT Received: from gatekeeper.us.oracle.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA03058; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:30:53 PDT Received: from prodpyr1.us.oracle.com by gatekeeper.us.oracle.com with SMTP (8.6.7/37.7) id NAA09598; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 13:30:52 -0700 Received: by prodpyr1.us.oracle.com (Oracle 1.12/37.7) id AA20454; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:31:29 PDT Message-Id: <9408262031.AA20454@prodpyr1.us.oracle.com> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:31:29 PDT From: "Martin Cheng" To: xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com Subject: Fwd: RE: Question on sequence numbers Cc: YLIU@us.oracle.com Reply-To: MCheng@us.oracle.com X-Orcl-Application: Mailer: Oracle Documents 2.1.2.3.0m X-Orcl-Application: Phone: 415 506-3461 X-Orcl-Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Boundary-3488844-0-0 --Boundary-3488844-0-0 Comments? -- Martin ============================================================================= Martin Cheng internet: mcheng@oracle.com Document Automation usmail: 500 Oracle Parkway, Box 659504 Oracle Corporation Redwood Shores, CA 94065 phone: (415) 506-3461 --Boundary-3488844-0-0 X-Orcl-Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: 26 Aug 1994 13:16:38 Sent: 26 Aug 1994 13:11:00 From:"Bor, Alexis" To: Martin,Cheng,MCHENG@us.oracle.com Subject: RE: Fwd: Return Message Reply-to: BORA@ct.si.cs.boeing.com X-Orcl-Application: Encoding: 78 TEXT X-Orcl-Application: X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Martin, Whould you post this message to xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com. I think this is a fair question for people to discuss. -- Alexis ---------- From: Martin Cheng To: bora Subject: Fwd: Return Message Date: Friday, August 26, 1994 10:31AM --Boundary-7927175-0-0 -- Martin --Boundary-7927175-0-0 X-Orcl-Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: 25 Aug 1994 18:40:28 Sent: 25 Aug 1994 18:39:50 From:"ORAPOST" To: MCheng Subject: Return Message Cc: ORAPOST Reply-to: ORAPOST X-Orcl-Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Boundary-7927175-0-1 --Boundary-7927175-0-1 The included message could not be delivered to the following invalid mail names. Please verify these names and try them again. Bad name: alexisbor --Boundary-7927175-0-1 X-Orcl-Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: 25 Aug 1994 18:39:50 Sent: 25 Aug 1994 18:38:15 From:"Martin Cheng" To: alexisbor Subject: Question on sequence number Reply-to: MCheng X-Orcl-Application: Mailer: Oracle Documents 2.1.2.3.0m X-Orcl-Application: Phone: 415 506-3461 Mr Bor, I have pulled and read the XAPIA recommendations document. I have a question about the definition of the XAPIA-DirSync-Info, specifically on the format of the sequence number. I noted that your group has proposed a scheme of major and minor numbers to represent TotalRefresh and IncrementalRefresh sequences. Does this mean that the group makes the assumption that a TotalRefresh will be contained in a single message? Do you assume that the transport system will take care of splitting and reassembling the message if there is a size constraint imposed by the transport system? Thanks. -- Martin --Boundary-7927175-0-1-- --Boundary-7927175-0-0-- --Boundary-3488844-0-0-- From madmin@tandem.com Tue Nov 8 09:21:45 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA14963; Tue, 8 Nov 94 09:21:47 PST Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA14959; Tue, 8 Nov 94 09:21:45 PST Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA15125; Tue, 8 Nov 94 09:25:15 -0800 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2EBFB394@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Tue, 08 Nov 94 09:21:24 PST From: "Bor, Alexis" To: xapia-dirsynch Subject: Any updates to the Dir Sync draft? Date: Tue, 08 Nov 94 09:21:00 PST Message-Id: <2EBFB394@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 8 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I have been making some edits to the Dir Sync draft and plan to put the new draft out later this week. I hope this will give people enough time to review and comment before the next meeting so I can do another draft in time for our next meeting in Gaithersburg, MD on December 13-15. Alexis bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com From madmin@tandem.com Wed Nov 30 06:52:19 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA02756; Wed, 30 Nov 94 06:52:21 PST Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA02752; Wed, 30 Nov 94 06:52:19 PST Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA07616; Wed, 30 Nov 94 06:56:03 -0800 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2EDC91AD@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Wed, 30 Nov 94 06:52:29 PST From: "Bor, Alexis" To: XAPIA Dir Synch Subject: REMINDER: Next Dir-Sync Meeting - Dec 13-15 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 06:48:00 PST Message-Id: <2EDC91AD@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 17 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 This is just a reminder to everyone that the next XAPIA Directory Synchronization meeting will be held on December 13-15 in Gaithersburg, Maryland at NIST. This is a joint meeting with the OIW Directory Services SIG. At the meeting I hope to finalize all edits to the document and solicit volunteers to prototype implementations to validate the specification. At this point, I hope to have this document finalized as version 1.0 and if any deficiencies are found during prototyping, they will be corrected into a version 1.1 of the document. See you there! Alexis Bor Chair, XAPIA Directory Synchronization Technical SubCommittee bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com From madmin@tandem.com Mon Dec 19 04:04:12 1994 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA14796; Mon, 19 Dec 94 04:04:23 PST Received: from lancaster.nexor.co.uk by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA14787; Mon, 19 Dec 94 04:04:12 PST X400-Received: by /PRMD=NEXOR/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 19 Dec 1994 12:03:51 +0000 X400-Received: by mta lancaster.nexor.co.uk in /PRMD=NEXOR/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 19 Dec 1994 12:03:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 12:03:51 +0000 X400-Originator: n.cook@nexor.co.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=NEXOR/ADMD= /C=GB/;lancaster.ne:143251:941219120349] Content-Identifier: PPMS Message From: Neil Cook Message-Id: <"lancaster.ne:143250:941219120349*/I=n/S=cook/O=NEXOR/PRMD=NEXOR/ADMD= /C=GB/"@MHS> To: xapia-dirsynch Cc: "n.cook" , "c.robbins" X-Mua-Version: XT-MUA 1.3 (wellington) of Wed Jun 15 10:00:40 BST 1994 We have been looking at implementing an xapia format parser, but were unable to come to the last xapia meeting. We have come up against a few problems with the standard as proposed in 0.6. Namely: 1) SequenceNumber is defined as a PrintableString, using the separator ;. Unfortunately, semicolon is not in PrintableString, so we propose to use colon, which is. 2) The TotalRefresh sequence consists of two SET OFs, both of which are optional. This means that they need a tag to identify them. e.g. total [0] TotalRefresh incremental [1] IncrementalRefresh To avoid confusion, perhaps those elements such as TotalRefesh, which are specified differently to those in X.525 might be renamed. This is merely a cosmetic point however. 3) create and modify timestamps are not explicitly mentioned in the xapia 0.6 document. Is there a requirement for them to be present in the attributes for (non glue) entries, or is it reasonable for the parser to add them based on its knowledge of the time element? 4) An SDSEtype is needed in the DISP protocol. At the moment, a sensible default is provided, based on knowledge of the unit of replication specified in the replication agreement, but perhaps there is a need for this in the xapia file format? For example, making entries upto the replication base entry of type glue. This actually also highlights a contradiction in the standard, which specifies that SDSEs of type "root" will be ignored, but also states elsewhere that "there is an empty SDSE of type "root" for the root SDSE". --- Obviously if any of these points are rectified in the new xapia draft, then feel free to ignore them. On that point, when will the minutes/recommendations of that meeting become available? Neil From madmin@tandem.com Mon Jan 30 12:58:13 1995 Received: by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /home/suntan/ftp/xapia-dirsynch/mailing-list/current id AA01148; Mon, 30 Jan 95 12:58:29 PST Received: from atc.boeing.com by suntan.Tandem.com (4.1/suntan5.940222) for /usr/lib/sendmail -odb -oi -fmadmin xapia-dirsynch-relay id AA01136; Mon, 30 Jan 95 12:58:13 PST Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA19878; Mon, 30 Jan 95 13:01:27 -0800 Received: by ct.si.cs.boeing.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F2D52D5@ct.si.cs.boeing.com>; Mon, 30 Jan 95 12:57:57 PST From: "Bor, Alexis" To: 'xapia-dirsynch' Subject: Draft 0.12 of Dir Sync Document Attached Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 12:55:00 PST Message-Id: <2F2D52D5@ct.si.cs.boeing.com> Encoding: 13 TEXT, 4171 UUENCODE X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 X-Ms-Attachment: FINAL012.DOC 187392 00-00-1980 00:00 Everyone, Attached is version 0.12 of the Dir Sync document. It is in Word for Windows 6.0 format. I will try to post this to nemo.ncsl.nist.gov sometime tomorrow. Please send me your comments. The list is xapia-dirsynch@tandem.com or you can send them directly to me at bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com. Alexis Bor bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com [[ FINAL012.DOC : 4360 in FINAL012.DOC ]] The following binary file has been uuencoded to ensure successful transmission. 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