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BEEP/SOAP (Was RE: SACRED Protocol (long!))



Title: BEEP/SOAP (Was RE: SACRED Protocol (long!))

Ok, so maybe the question should be "Why Beep?"  If we (meaning the company I work for) implement XKMS and other web services using SOAP, I'd certainly prefer that SACRED did the same.

Mike


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Crocker [mailto:dcrocker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:47 PM
> To: ietf-sacred@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: SACRED Protocol (long!)
>
>
>
> Folks,
>
> >To: "Magnus Nystrom" <magnus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <ietf-sacred@xxxxxxx>
> >Subject: Re: SACRED Protocol (long!)
> >From: "Marshall T. Rose" <mrose+mtr.netnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > > Actually Marshall, I think it is a good thing to run
> SACRED on top of
> > > BEEP. However, I also do believe that it should be possible to run
> > > SACRED on top of other protocols as well,
> >
> >everything has a cost. by mandating
>
>
> It is possible that the import of Marshall's response does
> not adequately
> register with some participants.  So it occurred to me that we should
> consider this proposal for infinite portability, and apply it
> to other venues.
>
> For example, I have traveled to a few different countries and
> I find all
> those plug adapters and voltage differences to be quite irritating.
>
> So I think we should mandate that every electrical device
> must a) work on
> all the different global voltages and b) have a plug that
> works in all the
> different global sockets.  Nevermind the increased cost. 
> Just the idea of
> one of those bulbous plugs on every device is delightful to consider.
>
> In fact, this seemed like such an appealing solution that it
> occurred to me
> we should go further.
>
> We should mandate that every automobile be made legal for
> every driving
> situation in the world.  I have no idea what this will mean
> under the hood,
> but am most intrigued at the idea of having the driver's
> steering wheel and
> other driving controls able to move from one side of the car
> to the other.
>
> So,
>
> I hope, like me, everyone is shaking their head by now,
> because that really
> is the nature of the proposal that has been put forward.  It is
> well-intentioned, but it carries unacceptable costs, for the
> specification
> effort, for the development effort, and for the poor end-user.
>
> d/
>
>
> ----------
> Dave Crocker  <mailto:dcrocker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Brandenburg InternetWorking  <http://www.brandenburg.com>
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>