Re: Security

[Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx>]

>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Ellermann <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

    Frank> Sam Hartman wrote:

    >> we should not recommend it.

    Frank> The draft is very clear about that, maybe even on the wrong
    Frank> side of the border to exaggeration.

    Frank> To take another example, just because RFC 862 is also known
    Frank> as STD 20 doesn't mean that starting echo servers is
    Frank> "recommended".

I think echo could be moved to historic too in the limited use
category of historic.

I think at this point we've staded our positions and additional
discussion on this point is useless.

I think you've made a case that if we chose to do so, we could publish
a new cram-md5 on the standards track.  However doing that requires WG
consensus.  Whether that consensus exists is a question first
evaluated by the chairs.  I've made my position clear: I will not be
part of that consensus.  I think you have made your position clear:
you want to be part of a consensus.