From: John Stanley (stanley@peak.org)
Date: Thu Oct 05 2000 - 12:21:56 CDT
Erland Sommarskog (sommar@algonet.se) writes:
"John Stanley's argumentation convinces me even more that this header
should be repelled. He wants to insert the information, but he does
not want the receiver to see it - here is something fishy going on."
Stop putting words in my mouth. Of course I want the "receiver" to see it.
It will be in the header. It will in the same place that the receiver
learns who sent the email, and the date that the email was sent. It's in
the same place that he learns what the email is "In Reply To".
Unless you can provide some clear evidence that the "receiver" cannot see
the header (not just chooses not to see it, actually cannot see it) then
you can argue that I don't want him to see it. Otherwise, it will be in
the appropriate place in the message for the agent the recipient uses to
wave flags and toot horns and do anything else the agent is programmed to
do when a CC'd posting shows up. The receiver can read the same
information and know it was posted and where.
If you keep arguing that I don't want the receiver to see this info, then
you had better figure out why the people in this group don't want the
receiver to know who sent the email, when it was sent, where it was sent
from, or any of the other information that is "hidden" right at the top of
the message in the header.
Leaving it up to the sender to include the blurb, or leave it included,
is taking the position that you don't want the receiver to know. When the
sender removes those lines he did not write, how is the recipient going
to get the information? When the sender configures his agent to include
a blurb that says "This blurb doesn't tell you anything" when he CC's a
news posting, how will the "receiver" you are so worried about going to
know it was posted and where? This is lot fishier than just putting the
info in the header where it belongs.
Terje Bless (link@tss.no) says:
"BTW, John, I find your style of quoting a trifle hard to follow... "
Standard english. Pretend you are reading the New York Times. It's how
they quote.