From: Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)
Date: Wed Jan 17 2001 - 16:44:19 CST
Brad Templeton <brad@templetons.com> writes:
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:59:17AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I was being restrained compared to what I wanted to say. I find your
>> choice of presentation of your personal ethical preferences to be
>> offensive.
> Please let me know which statement offended you.
*sigh* I don't know where to even start. It's a tone thing, and a matter
of presenting your own personal ethical choices as if they're the only
ones that matter, as well as the constant bringing up of the EFF to use as
some sort of personal axe against people who disagree with you.
> You're free to disagree, and say as one poster here that privacy rights
> are unimportant, or of such minimal importance that the convenience of
> spam hunters is more important.
Privacy "rights" as you're defining them, with the implementation that
you're proposing, are coming down on the wrong side of the trade-off, and
the benefits that you're trying to achive are not important enough to
warrant the utility that you're destroying, in my opinion.
Anyway, I'm somewhat sympathetic, and I started this somewhat sympathetic,
and the more I listen to you the less sympathetic I'm getting. Right now,
you're actively convincing me to keep NNTP-Posting-Host on my server until
hell freezes over. This seems to be an obviously bad place for my
reaction to be going, and this isn't the first time that I've felt this
happen with one of these discussions, so maybe I should quit. I don't
seem to have anything substantially new to say anyway.
> One major mission of the standards group is to look at the various
> ad-hoc additions to the net, and clean them up, standardize them and fix
> what's wrong with them.
> This one has something wrong with it, in my view, so it is entirely
> appropriate for me to be pointing that out and proposing something
> better.
I think the current wording of the Injector-Info description in the
current draft is acceptable, if not ideal, and is about as good as we're
likely to get right now. I oppose Brad's proposal. I have nothing
further to add on technical issues and merits than what I've said
previously.
-- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>