Re: Newsgroup names and Unicode, attempt 3

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From: Charles Lindsey (chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk)
Date: Mon Jul 02 2001 - 06:50:26 CDT


In <20010629235928.B13209@litterbox.meowing.net> greg andruk <gja@meowing.net> writes:

>> I know of no relaying or serving system that would have any technical
>> problem with UTF-8 in headers.

>Ah, that explains why when I created a moderated alt.* group on my test
>server and posted to it, the bounce that came back showed that the
>article could not be delivered to a different address than the one
>where I sent it. The high bits were all stripped off. Right, no
>compatibility problems at all.

Yes, we know there is a problem with moderated groups using UTF-8
characters. But we also know that general solutions will appear as a
result of the IDN efforts, so that it will eventually be possible to mail
to dk-test-blåbærgrød@moderators.isc.org. So if any particular hierarchy
wants to create a moderated group, it might be better for it to hold off
for a while. But that is no reason not to have unmoderated groups.

In any case, the current draft explicitly states that finding a
moderator's address is outside our scope, and the only mention of the
"replace '.' by '-' trick" is in a NOTE.

>>
>> If you are referring to the RFC 2047 machinery, then it is already well
>> established that it is totally unsuitable for newsgroup-names. The
>> interoperability problems are horrendous. Note that the nntp-base document
>> is also taking the UTF-8 route.

>No, I am referring to the LISTPNAMES extension from the NNTP working
>group. It took me about half an hour to add it to INN, including
>compilation and working out the LIST EXTENSIONS whitespace problem.

I cannot find any such extension in RFC 2980. Please be more specific.

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