From: David Iain Greig (dgreig@darwin.ediacara.org)
Date: Tue Aug 06 2002 - 20:01:13 CDT
On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 06:38:16PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Jay Denebeim wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, David Iain Greig wrote:
> > > Or are you missing the point that there doesn't seem to be any such
> > > software and I am suggesting that there should be one. In place. Working.
> >
> > Uh, no. You're missing the point that there doesn't seems to be any one
> > program people are using now. There are, as I've been saying way too many
> > times, many different implementations, and one piece of software won't cut
> > it for all (or even a large subset) of moderated groups.
>
> People keep saying this and when I ask for an example of moderator software
> which handles extended character sets they stop saying it. Not only are there
> not "many different" solutions, AFAIK there are none if you want ECS. If
> you disagree please name the groups and software used.z
>
> There should be a program to bootstrap ECS moderation, people not moderating
> ECS groups can keed using ed on CP/M for all I care, but there should be at
> least one thing which does work with ECS, to prevent people from claiming
> that there is no tool.
I am not moderating an 'ECS' group; it may end up with crossposts to an
unmoderated ECS group. Therefore the post will either be encapsulated
(preserving the ECS information in the header), or it will not.
Assuming it is, I will receive encapsulated submissions to a non-ECS
group. Therefore, your assumption above is wrong.
If it ISN'T encapsulated, you've failed in making USENET safe for
ECS, since email will possibly choke on the header info.
> For the last time, I am not proposing to take away whatever you have now,
> I want to provide a tool for people who are not usa-centric bigots.
And I want to protect USENET from half-baked solutions. Why do
you insist on breaking USENET because you can't fix email?
--D.