Re: Sender header

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From: Erland Sommarskog (sommar-usefor@algonet.se)
Date: Sun Feb 10 2002 - 12:19:23 CST


John Stanley <stanley@peak.org> writes:
> If you are going to put words in my mouth, please have the courtesy to use
> correct grammar.

So sorrrry! Being a native speaker of a language in which verbs are not
inflected for person or number, I frequently do this mistake. But here
is your chance to show that you are better than me, John! Make your next
posting in perfect Swedish. (Don't worry about the rest, I'll translate
for them.)

> They are broken because they are redefining the From and Sender header to
> mean something other than the draft specifies.

Actually not. The redefining business is your game. You been trying
to redefined the verb "modify", the noun "entity" and God knows what.

> I guess if you don't think "breaks signatures" and "redefines standard
> headers", in addition to violating a SHOULD NOT, is sufficient argument,
> I cannot dissuade you.

The signature thing is not is something I good at, but Charles or Clive
had good argument on that point: if you don't include Sender, don't say
that it's signed. And anyway you spend a lot of energy that the server
does not know, which is a bogus argument as far as I am concerned.

> >If you
> >want the draft to say "human beings", you should call for the language
> >being changed.
>
> What a load of crap. I don't "want" it to say I am a human when I post, I
> am a human, you dit. I am the "entity", and yes, dear, that definition
> fits human being just fine already.

It's somewhat funny that you first ask for courtsey and then cannot find
a better counter-argument than "What a load of crap".

Then again that permits me to comment your argument in two words:
metaphysical drivel.

If you are logged in as john@somewhere.com and you use john@hotmail.com
in your From line and do not include a Sender, there is no violation
if the server deem these two be different entities.

--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, sommar@algonet.se


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