From: Charles Lindsey (chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk)
Date: Tue Jun 11 2002 - 08:32:49 CDT
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:38:30 -0700
DMckeon@swcp.com (Denis McKeon) said...
>
> In <3D02DCED.3F8718E6@americasm97.nt.com>,
> "Chris Lewis" <clewis@pte.nortelnetworks.com> wrote:
> ...
> >It just put the article, as constructed by Pnews/inews/nntpd, into the
> >body of the message - the news headers were just more text.
>
> I'm hearing a nominal total of 3 methods "in the wild":
>
> 1) "double" headers - news headers within an e-mail body - now very rare.
> 2) merged e-mail & news headers - currently most commonly seen.
> 3) MIME-encapsulated news - news headers within a MIME part.
Not necessarily as a "part". The whole email message can have
Content-Type: application/news-transmission, which actually makes it
very similar to (1).
>
> and would suggest that a rational approach for script/robot writers
> would be to support 2) now and for as long as that legacy is with us
> (probably around 2010 or so?) and to support 3) as soon as feasible.
> That implies (IMHO) that USEFOR should require (MUST) support of 2) and
> encourage (SHOULD) support of 3).
What it actually says is
SHOULD send to moderators using (3)
moderators SHOULD continue to accept (2) (acceptance of (3) is implicit)
>
>
> I wonder if a market might arise for moderator support services, similar
> to services now being offered by 3rd party spam filtering services -
> people maintaining servers that would receive submissions for moderated
> groups, perhaps filter out spam, do whatever pre-mangling or unmangling
> is required for their customer-moderator's situations, and pass along
> the result, perhaps tagged for various in-folders, to the actual
> moderator(s).
>
> Filtering according to group policy or group charter could also be done,
> optionally, but I don't see out-sourcing *all* moderator decisions - just
> those that a human moderator might delegate to their own scripts/robots.
Yes, there is talk of setting up a centralized moderbot for uk.*,
running Stump. Would apply filtering rules (crosspost limits,
blacklists, whitelists) and forward doubtful cases to the real
moderator. The only problem is that the person proposing to set it up
has made himself very unpopular for other reasons :-( .
Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------
Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Fax: +44 161 436 6133 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl
Email: chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K.
PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5