Re: UTF-8 over RFC 2047 (Re: Call for Usefor to recharter)

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From: Dave Crocker (dcrocker@brandenburg.com)
Date: Sat Jan 11 2003 - 14:57:27 CST


Erland,

Saturday, January 11, 2003, 12:22:56 PM, you wrote:
>> Cramming those bits into a 7-bit environment is just one more cramming
>> effort. It stands equal to the others as an alternative that has benefits
>> and detriments.

Erland> Why let it stop with 7 bits? Why not cram it into one bit, while you're
Erland> at it?

If this is is an example of the way discussions have gone on usefor, then
it's pretty clear why the technical work is in trouble.

7-bit netascii is a long-standing internet norm. that's why.

it would be extremely helpful for this topic to benefit from attention being
paid to deployed, real-world standards-based installed base.

>> If you do not have UTF-8 or UTF-16 tools, you cannot view the data at all.

Erland> Incorrect. If you have an 8-bit editor that does not understand UTF-8,
Erland> you will see the text, but it will look "ugly".

it would be extremely helpful for this topic to benefit from attention being
paid to deployed, real-world standards-based installed base.

Erland> The same applies if you have a any-bit editor which does not understand
Erland> RFC2047.

Erland> But:

Erland> 1) UTF-8 looks less ugly than RFC2047 when incorrectly displayed.

Unfortunately, this effort is not a computer science theoretical exercise.

it would be extremely helpful for this topic to benefit from attention being
paid to deployed, real-world standards-based installed base.

d/

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