From: Charles Lindsey (chl@clerew.man.ac.uk)
Date: Mon Jul 05 2004 - 18:43:05 CDT
In <40E6CAD1.9080402@erols.com> Bruce Lilly <blilly@erols.com> writes:
>Charles Lindsey wrote:
>> I had always understood that any cmsg in Subject was always ignored if a
>> genuine Control-header was present.
>I'm assuming that you omitted the word "not" before "present", and either
>didn't catch the error in proofreading or didn't proofread -- otherwise
>your message makes no sense at all.
No, I meant exactly what I said
>> IOW
>>
>> Subject: cmsg newgroup example.foo
>> Control: newgroup example.bar
>>
>> was guaranteed to create example.bar only.
Perhaps Russ could indicate how those earlier versions of INN actually
treated that case.
>>
>> Anyway, for anything bad to happen, two things are required:
>>
>> 1. Some servers need to exist that still act on 'cmsg'
>> 2. Some administrator needs to issue such a 'cmsg' without a proper
>> Control-header.
>Wrong. it is not necessary for an *administrator* to be the issuer, any
>poster will do (with an Approved field in some cases).
Nobody but an *administrator* is _supposed_ to be issuing a control
message (except in alt.* and free.*, perhaps). Except for cancels.
>We still need to consider existing software -- B news and Cnews do
>interpret cmsg as a control message, and uttering the magic words
>"MUST NOT" will not cause them to cease doing so. We need to decide
>on an appropriate means of dealing with this backwards compatibility
>issue.
B news is dead. If it had not died before then, I am pretty sure that it
finally died on Dec 31st 1999. Cnews most certainly does NOT do it. We
know of some surviving versions of INN. Do we know of any more? Dnews
anyone?
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