From: Bruce Lilly (blilly@erols.com)
Date: Sat May 01 2004 - 14:19:53 CDT
Charles Lindsey wrote:
> In <4091A66A.600@erols.com> Bruce Lilly <blilly@erols.com> writes:
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>>Charles Lindsey wrote:
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>>>So where does that stand. It seems to me that the numbers quoted above
>>>amount to a "rough consensus" as it is usually understood
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>>Consensus ("rough" or otherwise) is not obtained when there are substantive
>>objections, which in this case there are. Among them:
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> Your "substantive objections" have been discussed ad nauseam, and you have
> signally failed to persuade anybody of their merit.
Lies. There are others in this WG (John Stanley and Eivind Tagseth at
minimum) who have clearly stated that your text does not belong in the
USEFOR document, and that it but one of the substantive objections.
> Repeating the whole
> discussion another 57 times is unlikely to change that. If the list of
> people who can and cannot live with the proposed text is correct, then it
> is time to move on.
It will be time to move on when the Chair(s) declare so or the substantive
issues are resolved, and no earlier. You can put your partisan text in the
next version of the draft if you wish; but you can expect the same substantive
objections to it.
>>Moreover, it is not the editor's role to declare consensus, particularly
>>when the editor is an interested party in the outcome. Until one or more
>>of the WG Chairs makes a ruling, your opinion is merely that, and carries
>>no weight.
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> In the absence of the Chairs, I have no other alternative.
Bull. You are proceeding on a false premise, which has been explained to you
on multiple occasions. You are using this false "consensus" as a smokescreen
to promote your personal preferences in spite of substantive objections (which
you have refused to addressed) raised by WG members.
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