Re: Achieving consensus

From: Charles Lindsey (chl@clerew.man.ac.uk)
Date: Mon May 03 2004 - 06:28:07 CDT


In <Pine.LNX.4.53.0404301017500.18711@a.shell.peak.org> John Stanley <stanley@peak.org> writes:

>Charles Lindsey (chl@clerew.man.ac.uk):

>A comment on a sillyness in your reply to Bruce:

>>You cannot prescribe in a standard what 'users' should do.

>So, should I choose to create an article using no followup agent other
>than vi, the standard cannot tell me what I must put into the article,
>the news system should accept anything I happen to feel like creating,
>because the standard cannot prescribe what I do? You cannot tell me, as a
>user, that what I wrote is not a valid article, so as such, it will be
>accepted by any relay agent that I pass it to?

You can indeed construct any article you like using vi. If you choose to
include a References-header it will technically be a followup, and vice
versa. The Subject can be whatever you like. If all the rest of the
headers are consistent with the draft, then it will be a valid article
and the injecting agent (not the relaying agent) will allow it through. If
not, it won't.

>Or do you intend that vi should be written to recognize the text being
>entered as "news article" and act accordingly, enforing the proscriptions
>of the news standard?

>Of course we can prescribe what users do, if they are acting in the
>function of a news agent. Don't be silly.

No, we don't prescribe what users do. We prescribe what injecting agents
(in this case) do.

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