From: Bruce Lilly (blilly@erols.com)
Date: Sat May 15 2004 - 08:01:34 CDT
Charles Lindsey wrote:
> In <409BFB26.9050101@erols.com> Bruce Lilly <blilly@erols.com> writes:
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>>Charles Lindsey wrote:
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>>>So I think the rough consensus is now established in principle, although
>>>the wording may yet change.
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>>Wrong; there remain substantive objections from several parties.
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> From two parties.
No matter; substantive objections need to be addressed. Substantive
objections are different from mere wishing ('I'd like it to say X, for
no particular reason').
>>The objections
>>date from draft 12, which has the objectionable wording, and that was after
>>one of the co-chairs had ruled that "Re:" was not part of the defined syntax
>>and that the only possible reason to include it would be if some protocol
>>issue were applicable. After discussion, not one example of a protocol issue
>>was given. And all of that happened before draft 12 was published.
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> Examples of protocol issues have been presented on this list within the
> last week.
You will have to give specifics -- I have seen no examples of any protocol
issues (defined as affecting network operations, i.e. something other than
mere display (UI) issues).
>>At minimum, the Chair should have a discussion with the Document Editor
>>with resolution of the issues described above as a goal.
>
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> The Chair should do (indeed should have done) lots on things. But the
> so long as the Chair remains silent there is little to be done except to
> press on as best we can.
Deliberately inserting objectionable language after the WG has resolved an
issue in discussion is not "as best we can", it is the worst possible
course, the course that has resulted in no deliverables after nearly a
decade of WG effort.
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