Re: Protocol Action: 'Netnews Article Format' to Proposed Standard

[Frank Ellermann <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The IESG wrote:

> The IESG has approved the following document:
 
> - 'Netnews Article Format '
>    <draft-ietf-usefor-usefor-12.txt> as a Proposed Standard
[...]
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-usefor-12.txt

Great.  How about updating the WG Charter now ?  I'd like to add the
I-D about news and nntp URIs, if that could help to settle the two
(I think) remaining objections by Charles:

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.w3c.uri/970

If I got it right he'd prefer to specify a new "range" syntax for
nntp-URLs, while I'd prefer to stick to the RFC 1738 syntax, because
one "message" of RFC 1738, draft-gilman, and draft-hoffman (continued
in the actual I-D) was always that news-URLs are better than nntp-URLs
for various reasons.  Which isn't the point where I'd wish to add new
features not supported by existings UAs (as far as they support this
scheme at all), even if it should be easy to implement it in new UAs.

His second objection is about the "new" (3977) <wildmat> construct,
he wants news-URLs to allow the complete wildmat syntax with "!" and
",", while I want only "*" and the percent-encoded "?" as a "minimal"
superset of Gilman's old news-URL draft.  Actually the same concerns
as for nntp-ranges, Charles wants to support all new NNTP features if
they're low-hanging fruits, I want maximum backwards compatibility
with Gilman's I-D and common practice.

To some degree it's a matter of taste, and the feedback I got so far
is somewhat limited, most folks are happy with deprecating snews, two
contributors submitted nits (fixed) otherwise supporting the I-D as is,
and one contributor wanted the "*" as it now is (in an earlier draft I
tried to get away with the original 1738 idea of either group or "*").

Any opinions here ?  The old 2004 WG Charter mumbles something about:

| The Group shall also aid and/or oversee the production of other
| Usenet related Internet Drafts and Standards.

Frank