Re: Niggles in usepro-draft-11

[Russ Allbery <rra@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Charles Lindsey" <chl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

>>How about this:
>
>>      <section anchor="supersedes" title="The Supersedes Header Field">
>>        <t>The presence of a Supersedes header field in an article
>>        requests that the message identifier given in that header field be
>>        withdrawn in exactly the same manner as if it were the target 
>>        of a cancel control message.  Accordingly, news servers SHOULD
>>        apply to a Supersedes header field the same authentication and
>>        authorization checks as they would apply to cancel control
>>        messages.  If the Supersedes header field is honored, the news
>>        server SHOULD take the same actions as it would take when honoring
>>        a cancel control message for the given target article.</t>
>
>>I think inverting the sentence makes it clearer.
>
> Yes, but I would still like to see the word "whatever" in there
> somewhere, just to make it clear that there might well be no checks on
> cancel messages (and hence no action applicable to Supersedes). That is,
> in fact, the common current practice, much as we might wish otherwise
> :-( .

Does "the same authentication and authorization checks as they would
apply" versus "whatever authentication and authorization checks they would
apply" feel different in meaning to you?  That shading of meaning is too
fine for me to detect, and the word "whatever" seems less formal and
precise, which is why I used the former wording.

"The same" to me includes the possibility of "none."

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Russ Allbery (rra@xxxxxxxxxxxx)             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>