RE: vCard XML DTD

["Darryl Champagne" <Darryl.Champagne@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,
An important thing to note is that it takes time, money, and effort to reach
a consensus, publish new updates, and get specifications approved.

My understanding is that anyone is free to use the work, but that does not
make it a standard.  For a standard to take place, there is quite a bit of
behind the scenes work, travel to meetings, time and effort, and pretty
extensive process, that must take place.  Believe me, this is a lot of work!

If modifications are made, they should not be called a standard, and they
should not pretend to be the existing standard (they must be uniquely
identified as something else - no one else can just arbitrarily publish
something called vCard 4.0, for example).  But you are free to use the
existing standards, as long as there aren't any Intellectual property issues
(patents, etc.) that suddenly surface.

dgc

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:18 AM
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Subject: RE: vCard XML DTD



> - Does anybody know the reason IETF did not make it
>  a standard?

I want this also, a single definitive standard for
vCard-XML!  There are only a IETF draft, I think
the last DTD was
draft-dawson-vcard-xml-dtd-02.txt
from  November 15, 1998.

IETF divide responsabilities with the W3C, and, W3C
is the "master of the XML", and, I think W3C want
translate vCard (the IETF RFC-2426 standard) into a
more "dirty and complex xml elements"
than dawson-vcard-xml-dtd. They want vCard in a RDF
framework,
http://www.w3.org/TR/vcard-rdf


Now, in 2002 days, we must looking for XSD...
draft-dawson-vcard-xml-dtd-02.txt
like all DTD definitions can evolute to a XSD, like
http://www.dlnet.vt.edu/Resources/dlnetSysFiles/vCardv1p0.xsd
but it is not a standard... the standard are only the
semantic controled by RFC-2426.


> - Is one free to modify this DTD (the way Jabber has
>  done) to suit one's needs w/o any copyright
>  violations?

All IETF and W3C specifications are free...
and the use of the standards are "voluntary"...
All DTDs and XSDs are like a open source codes
(see www.opensorce.org)
... and XML are eXtensive, you can extend.


PS: sorry by my english, I am a portuguese speaker.


                                      Peter Krauss


= = = =
Greetings,

According to Jabber website
(http://www.jabber.org/protocol/vcard-xml/history.html)
they are about the only one using the DTD propsed by
the author. My questions are:


- Is it true that there would be no more succesor
  to DTD proposal?

- Is one free to modify this DTD (the way Jabber has
  done) to suit one's needs w/o any copyright
  violations?

I recently stumpled upon this site so please
forgive me if I'm asking questions which have already
been answered.

Thanks,
Harsh Daharwal



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