Could I suggest that contributors to the email@example.com list NOT copy pem-dev as well? I strongly suspect that anyone who has an interest has already subscribed. Alternatively, perhaps we should have used the pem-dev from the start. But we surely don't need two copies of every message. Bob Robert R. Jueneman GTE Laboratories 40 Sylvan Road Waltham, MA 02254 Jueneman@gte.com 1-617/466-2820 "The opinions expressed are my own, and may not reflect the official position of GTE, if any, on this subject."